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Author Topic: What Computer specs to run Epson Stylus Pro and Qimage Ultimate ?  (Read 20743 times)
bmeddings
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« on: May 16, 2013, 01:38:43 AM »

Hi everyone,
     I've been off these boards for quite a while. I would now be very grateful for whatever advice any of you can give me.

Here's my situation: .... Last December I reached 83, last February we sold our house. In July 2013 we move into a "Seniors Retirement Residence". Last stop before the crematorium <Grin>. But not much room compared to our old home. So packed up all my photography gear and the Epson Stylus Pro 7900 printer and shipped it off to my youngest son, 2,500 miles away.

Now I wish to add a computer to that lot to run the printer and associated software such as Qimage Ultimate.
Until now I have always bought tower desktop computers. But this looks like a smaller computer might be sufficient.
I'm going to leave the choice, and purchase, of the monitor to my son.

What are your suggestions for the computer specifications for this job Huh??

Hopefully, and sincerely,
Basil Meddings
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 09:14:55 AM »

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What are your suggestions for the computer specifications for this job ?

Hi Basil,
I remember you well.... Happy Octegenarius!
I remember your name mainly because Basil Rathbone played Sherlock Holmes as no other can.

Ok to your question.    I would say two things that come to mind.
One would be the specifications might be the same as a desktop in terms of RAM and CPU.
I would most certainly buy the fastest CPU and BUS combination and at least 6 gigs of ram....
Most of us are shooting in Raw format, and even more important, many are buying cameras with more mega pixels than was dreamed of.
My friend has a pair of Nikon D 800s and the images close in on 75 megapixels per image...
They have to "load" into Qimage.
Mike has sped up Ultimate much faster than it was a year ago, but still, you must have some power!

I know nothing about Laptops. I don't care for them, and I don't own one. My reason is a in the lack of color credence from a laptop screen.
If I move 10 degrees up, down, left or right, everything I see changes, so It irritates my judgement.

So now I suggest that someone who has and uses a laptop with his QU, please pop in with some first hand knowledge.

Glad to see you again, Basil.... shoot for 90!   Not golf!  Your birthday!

Fred

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 05:08:18 AM »

Thanks Fred, I rather expected/hoped that you'd be the first to reply.
My own preference is still for a desktop but I'm beginning to realize I'm something of a dinosaur in that respect.

Let's hear if anyone else drops pearls of wisdom in front om, I certainly hope so.

As I said, good to hear from you again Fred.

Cheers,
Basil
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 09:30:45 AM »

Hello Basil.
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Let's hear if anyone else drops pearls of wisdom in front om, I certainly hope so
If you are really stuck for space or portability is essential, then it may well have to be a laptop but make sure it's a quad core (Intel i5) processor with a good size ram and hard drive. Fred is right, the screens of laptops are poor from what unless they've improved in the last couple of years. My laptop (occasional use only), although calibrated, has a small colour gamut and the angle of view is critical.
With a desktop you get more power and you can choose a good quality monitor but check this article first: http://ddisoftware.com/tech/articles/december-2010-do-you-have-a-6-bit-lcd-monitor/
Again, quad core (Intel i7) with plenty of ram. 2 hard drives is a good idea, use one for back-up.
Another tip for a desktop, both Fred & I find that a custom built unit from a local shop is better than something off-the-shelf at a big store.
Finally, for a desktop, try to get Windows 7 rather than Windows 8. No such choice with a laptop though, it'll be W8. W8 is due to be updated soon so some of the inconveniences may disappear.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2013, 10:46:39 PM »

Thanks Terry, I remember you too from past years.

I think I'm moving towards simply shipping one of our two existing computers down to my son 2,500 miles away.
I've been trying to avoid that because of handling risks but Fedex seem to be reasonably careful even if a bit costly.
Both of our computers were custom-built in May, 2011 so, like me, they're a bit long in the tooth.
Both have an i7-2600K cpu on an Asus P8P67 m/b with 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM. Storage is 4 x WDC Caviar Black 2TB drives and the boot drive on the one I will ship is a 750GB Seagate Momentus hybrid drive. That hybrid drive came about because I messed up the original 256GB OCZ Vertex 3  SSD and I didn't quite know how to "secure erase" the SSD. So I chickened out and swapped in the Seagate hybrid drive.

Moving into a 685 sq. feet apartment in July 2013 means that two big tower desktops would probably take up too much room although twin computers in a home have a lot of advantages when one of them gets screwed up. SO shipping one down to my son seems reasonable. More or less <Grin>.

Thanks for reminding me about Mike Chaney's notes on modern monitors. I remember thinking when I first read it, that like all of Mike's stuff, it was clear, easy to read, and helpful. As I said a day or so ago, I'll leave my son to purchase whatever monitor he wants to use for his printer/computer combination. But I'll let him see Mike's comments and a few reviews of current IPS monitors.

As a complete aside, what is the significance of the "Metric" in your "handle" ?
I ask because I spent about a quarter century at work representing some of the Canadian nickel producers on the various committees of TC 155 of the International Standards Organisation.

Again, thanks Terry.
Ditto to Fred

Regards,
Basil
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2013, 02:25:05 PM »

Hi Basil,
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As a complete aside, what is the significance of the "Metric" in your "handle" ?
That was cooked up between Mike & Fred  Roll Eyes
"honourable" because I'm English, "Metric", that's because I use metric units and Fred does not understand them and "mann" is my surname.
I used the CGS system for physics at school but the engineering company I worked for went metric in 1970 and I've been ambidextrous with units ever since.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2013, 02:38:53 PM »

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Fred does not understand them

Well, now, I have to make a small correction.
It is true that when a person submits a question to the forum or to me directly by email, if he starts out by describing his print size as;  297.3 mm x 461.9 mm, I have no clue in my head what size print that might be to me!
It could be 4 x 6 or 30 x 40".
So I turn it over to my good friend and colleague, Metric Mann

On the other hand, I fully comprehend the relationship between the logic and sense behind meters, centimeters, millimeters, micrometers, and can roll between them easily.
My problem is visualizing some length in mms unless I start with 1000 mm and work back.

So I guess you could call me "Inchman", Footman or Yard man.

 :)Fred Grin
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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 03:02:07 PM »

Both Terry and Fred,
       Let's start with Terry. I also was born and schooled in England and so was raised in both "Imperial" and CGS units.
Ambidextrous as you say Terry. I'll simply ignore "Honourable because I'm English" as a complete non sequitur. The rest makes sense.
       Fred, it's really quite easy. The English based their length measurements upon the "foot". Which was, at the time, the handily available appendage of an honourable King. Since his inevitable demise the basic unit has been inaccessible. But standards and sub-standards had been prepared with the usual English foresight. The French, several centuries later, based their "Metre" upon a fraction of the circumference of the Earth. Certainly more lasting than a mortal kingly tootsie, but hardly truly accessible. The advantages of the metric system lie not in the units themselves but in the sub-units which are always in multiples of ten. Since most of us have ten digits readily available to count upon that makes life in the metric lane somewhat easier for most of us. The "foot" was OK but then the bureaucrats came along with inches, yards, furlongs, rods, poles, perches and miles. Bureaucracy baffles brains, as ever.

       Simply Fred,  1 inch = 2.5 cm = 25 millimetres. And 5 miles = 8 Kilimetres.

   Getting back on topic, thank you both for your help. I'll let my last computer live out it's life as the engine of my son's printer setup.

   All the best to both of you and everyone else in the Qimage school,

Basil
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 04:18:09 PM »

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Simply Fred,  1 inch = 2.5 cm = 25 millimetres. And 5 miles = 8 Kilimetres

But Basol, old friend! You left out horses at 16 hands high, Hectares, Liters, CCs, grams and Kgms, tons and Metric tons, Fahrenheit and Celsius, .... etc etc.

Terry drives me "bananas" when he Skypes me that he is overwhelmed by the heat of the day; it's 24 degrees.
That reminds me, how can you be overwhelmed, when you haven't yet been whelmed?

Strange world.
Fred
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2013, 03:34:16 PM »

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That reminds me, how can you be overwhelmed, when you haven't yet been whelmed?

Agreed Fred. Like me, you've probably been disgruntled at some time in your life.
But have you ever been gruntled ?

It's an odd language.

Basil
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 12:03:37 AM »

from Oxford English Dictionary - whelm = engulf, submerge.   
from elsewhere - gruntle =  the suffix -le was once a diminutive marker, the original meaning was "to grunt a little, make a small grunt", the sort of sound piglets would make. (In fact, gruntling has served as the term for a piglet in the past.) In this meaning, gruntle was first printed around 1400. Apparently, the prefix dis- was added toward the end of the 17th century to make the intransitive verb transitive. Now writers are taking it off again. The root, grunt, is thought to have an onomatopoetic or imitative origin.

Nowt queer bout the English language, just the folk who use it...
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 10:11:16 AM »

Fred,

wrt converting metric to something more useful - I've used this little program for ages.  http://joshmadison.com/convert-for-windows/

Best wishes,

Ray
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