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russellsnr
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« on: February 13, 2017, 02:13:47 AM »

Hi, Is there a Video/DVD tutorial on how to use Profile Prism please?
I have searched online and at youtube but cannot see one.
I'm like one of those judges on that TV program 'The Voice' always hovering over the button (in this case to buy it) but still not sure. One of those people who read how to do it and then forget but see it in action and understand it.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 04:55:16 AM »

Hi Russ,
No, there isn't a DVD or any videos. The best I can suggest is to look at the online help here:
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/help/
If you do decide to purchase, then there are people on the forum who can help if you get stuck.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 05:19:22 AM »

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Hi, Is there a Video/DVD tutorial on how to use Profile Prism please?

Perhaps, this will help.

I can make a video for you showing how I recently made a profile for HP Advanced Glossy paper to be used by a Canon P-100 printer and OEM ink.

Before you buy Profile Prism, (PP), you will need a decent scanner.... not an expensive scanner, but one that allows color correction to be turned off, or allow RAW scans, or a cold light scanner like a Canon LIDE.

We, many of us, years ago, when we used Profile Prism a lot, bought PP and tried it. If the results were poor, we knew we needed a better / proper scanner. I bought a Canon LIDE scanner for 79.00 and I was off and running.
Terry bought a different one, I think also LIDE type, and he was off and running.
Latest scanner which is perfect for the PP scan, is my Epson Work Force 3640.

That seems to be the stumbling block for some. There is no list of scanners that work properly that I know of.
Maybe some PP users can chime in here and advise what they use with success.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 05:28:09 AM »

Hi, thank you for the replies.
I have an older scanner Epson Perfection 1260 along with VueScan software.
Fred, any help is most appreciated.
I only print for myself but my dad always said "If a jobs worth doing it's worth doing well" and that kinda rubbed off on me so I would like to print the best that I can get rather than leaving it to chance.
Do you need just the one IT8 target although I have two printers?
Again thank you for the help.
Russ
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 07:47:55 AM »

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Do you need just the one IT8 target although I have two printers?

First, let me say, Each printer is totally separate. You do each one as if you had only one.

Since we do each printer as if it was your only one, then we only need one target

Read through this
http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/help/psteps.htm#prep

After you print the Target40.tif (using the set up in Qimage for target printing job, and it dries thoroughly, you trim it, and place both targets, IT8 and the Target40 on the glass at the same time.
It is a learning process.

Attention to detail on all your settings is primary. Next a scan within parameters... and the rest is easy.

Fred

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2017, 02:16:25 AM »

Hi, Fred a quick question.
I can find here in Greece only two types of CanoScan Lide the 120 and the 220.
Could you advise what you or Terry purchased please.
Many Thanks
Russ
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2017, 03:01:14 AM »

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I can find here in Greece only two types of CanoScan Lide the 120 and the 220
I have the Canon Lide 110.  believe the 120 superseded it.
The 220 has a higher scan resolution and is faster than the 120 but the 120 is perfectly adequate for PP.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2017, 03:04:10 AM »

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I can find here in Greece only two types of CanoScan Lide the 120 and the 220
I have the Canon Lide 110.  believe the 120 superseded it.
The 220 has a higher scan resolution and is faster than the 120 but the 120 is perfectly adequate for PP.
Terry
OK many thanks Terry. Forgot you lived in the UK Tongue wasn't expecting an answer for a while from the USA.
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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2017, 04:35:15 AM »

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OK many thanks Terry. Forgot you lived in the UK Tongue wasn't expecting an answer for a while from the USA.
Russ
Here I get out of bed extra early to answer you, and you take Terry's word.... back to bed.

Just joking of course.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2017, 07:33:16 AM »

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OK many thanks Terry. Forgot you lived in the UK Tongue wasn't expecting an answer for a while from the USA.
Russ
Here I get out of bed extra early to answer you, and you take Terry's word.... back to bed.

Just joking of course.
Fred
Well that's it!! while you where jumping in and out of bed I had taken the dog for a walk came back and ordered 1X Canon LIDE 120 and 1X PP
Now all I gotta do is wait!!
Maybe go back bed? it's only 2:30PM Grin
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 04:53:44 AM »

Hi. On having an email chat with Terry (and very helpfull he has been) he advises that the Canoscan software that came with the scanner (Scangear) option is now the way to go rather than spending more money to upgrade the VueScan basic software I already have but I have a couple questions (AGAIN!!) The instructions to use Profile Prism say to cover the target/s with black backing paper to shield from the white of the scanner under cover, would a piece of thin black cardboard from an old photo holder do the trick? a bit thicker than backing paper.
I don't have the target yet and have been trying to setup within scangear an option to have a user defined so that when the target arrives and I want to calibrate for differant papers I don't have to keep inputting the numbers as shown in the attached image but every time I set it  up and save it after the scan if I re-start scangear the the numbers have reverted back to standard.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 08:41:02 AM »

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would a piece of thin black cardboard from an old photo holder do the trick? a bit thicker than backing paper.
yes would be fine. Cut it to fit the platen and place over the targets when they have been positioned on the platen. Make sure the targets are square and do not move. Check the preview.
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I don't have the target yet and have been trying to setup within scangear an option to have a user defined so that when the target arrives and I want to calibrate for different papers I don't have to keep inputting the numbers as shown in the attached image but every time I set it  up and save it after the scan if I re-start scangear the the numbers have reverted back to standard.
Once all the correct settings are made, click the Custom button and choose add/delete from the drop-down. Then name the settings eg. "Target Scan" and click save. You can then recall when needed. Mine stays set after I close down but is easily recalled if changed.
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2017, 04:31:28 PM »

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Hi, Got to be the most complicated piece of software I have ever used.
Wasted money on the software a new scanner and the upgrade required of Viewscan.
Wading through the written articles is really overwhelming (for me anyway).
Wish I had saved the money and put it towards maybe an X-Rite Colormunki that looks a whole lot easier to use.
Qimage software really great but this PP is not for me.
Russ

Russ,
Honest injun, Profile Prism software is not complicated at all.
I can and will make you an easy video of me making a profile.

The complicated and tricky part is the scanner choice and the use of the Twain driver or Vuescan.
Since Terry has the same software, he really should be the one to guide you through that.
He is a busy guy compared to me.  I just sit on the porch watching all the girls walk by.
Nevertheless, I can guide you through that using my Epson driver software, and you will see the operation and perhaps focus the principles into your Canon or Vuescan software.
That black paper routine is optional.... I don't use that.

Here's my email address. wathree.ssz@verizon.net

My videos will be too large to actually email, but I will send it via WE Transfer and for that I still need an email address from you.

I await your email address if you would like to continue

Fred


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