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Author Topic: Challenge # 68 ODR 101.5, UNSCARY-ED  (Read 13477 times)
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« on: September 17, 2016, 10:34:49 AM »

                                                                                                  Let's unscary this feature together!

So far, based on questions I get in my email, I think we all were trotting down the old familiar path of lighter/ darker tools.
ODR is a brilliantly new approach that gives you the ability to select an area for maximum detail in your selected area, and move your selection for optimal results.

.... and it really is not scary; not intimidating either.
.....and with the A/B switch to give you the ability tio see if you like what you did, or the previous was better.... we are well armed.

ODR has three basic parts, Uni-fecta, Bi-fecta, and Tri-fecta.

Uni-fecta refers to ONE click application of ODR with amazing esults, as you will see in the video.

Bi-fecta refers to using the selective FOCUS box to tell Qimage whar area to FOCUS on to offer max detail.

Tri-fecta refers to the ability of ODR to allow you to add a over bright limit to the hot spots using the Magenta drawn rectangle.
Sometimes you need it, and sometimes you wont.

The A/B switch can also be used to check White Balance results from using two different test locations and seeing which you liked better.

Another often missed feature is that Qimage will SAVE whichever screen is live; A or B.
If you are tweaking your image in refine, and have settings in "A" and different ones in "B", which screen is showing at the time you his SAVE is the one that is saved.
Pretty neat!

OK Video time. Please go to full screen and HD to get the best information.
The video will show some easy peasy steps in ODR.

https://youtu.be/OrOJw5lRWiY
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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2016, 07:37:39 AM »

Will come back to this one later, I am in the process of developing my Corsica shots most taken in bright noon day sun.  I exposed to keep clear of blown highlights so have some with very dark shadows.  ODR has  had a good outing, I will post some before and after.

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2016, 06:30:23 AM »

Fred

Thanks for the well explained video!!!

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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2016, 04:20:05 PM »

Three stages of Raw process with ODR

First images - orig raw
Second - Raw process
Third - fully processed

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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2016, 04:21:22 PM »

Second Image
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2016, 04:22:01 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2016, 04:59:36 PM »

Jeff baby,
I do not see any difference in your snaps.
I have no idea what you tried to do.
Can you please send me the raw image as you usually do.

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 05:30:46 PM »

In the meantime................
I found a backlit image that was tough at first glance; like yours.

This is a 300mm shot from far away, hand held, with my old 20 D (smaller image than my 50 D, but cleaner)  and then cropped hard which is made up of 1227 x 2024 pixels.

Snao 111 is like yours, RAW un processed in REFINE
Snap 113 is showing ODR applied
Snap 114 is showing hard cropped final image.

It was just a plain test shot, just to see how steady my hand is at 300mm hand held, but you can easily see that ODR was on the job,.

I can also refine the image with similar results using FILL and HDR2,

Fred

PS I showed you mine, now you show me yours.
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2016, 05:59:24 PM »

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First images - orig raw
Second - Raw process

Here's one of YOURS from a year ago.

Raw image

ODR applied, followed by next post ((images wouldn't fit) (too many butes)

With ODR focus and magenta box applied

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2016, 06:00:16 PM »

Here's last image
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 07:10:19 AM »

Fred

It's on its way.

I found it a bit of a clat to create small representative jpegs showing the stages.  But I can just see the difference.

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2016, 10:24:51 AM »

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ound it a bit of a clat to create small representative jpegs showing the stages.  But I can just see the difference.

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Hi Jeff,
Thank you for sending the image in question.
It is very similar to what posted yesterday of your shot of the pretty woman in silhouette with boats and water out to sea.

It really all depends on what you want to bring out of the shot.
I think I brought out enough of her face to show beauty, and mood, and thoughts.
You may have had a different aim.

Same with this image... Was the object to have max detail of the boat; a compromise showing some detail in the foliage and the man's shirt on the right?
Maybe capture the entire scene in balance?

Screen snap do not do the image justice but we are stuck with severe size limits.
Snap 119 = original
120 shows magenta box to hold the white from getting blown out as we add the check mark in the ODR box.
Pretty good right there, but I will add 2 more image to an add on post to illustrate.
I am sure you can see the difference between the snaps.

I sent the ORF to Terry so he can have a play... he is very good and will show his ideas on the image.
By the way, neiter mhe nor I knows what your word "clat" means.   Maybe you used the wrong vowel?
(Ps I loved your joke; still laughing)

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2016, 10:38:36 AM »

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Additional snaps
Snap 121 shows maximum compromise detail with foliage detail and ship detail. This is based on placement of the yellow focus box.

Snap 123 showing what MI 5 might focus on in this image to look for tell-tale tattoos or scars that this suspect may have.

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« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2016, 07:28:56 AM »

Fred

Thanks for your efforts and comments.

The image is not one of my best anyway I had only seconds to take the shot, (with my bad leg I have a job catching up with the party) given time I could have waited for the ship to move from under the ipad snappers arm pit to just entering the harbour.
 
My processing object was to lighten up the foreground just a bit.

I will have to watch my language, I think CLAT must be a local Lincolnshire word meaning - a bit of a job, messing about.  Looked it up in Dictionary and found it had sexual connotations. Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2016, 09:01:54 AM »

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I will have to watch my language, I think CLAT must be a local Lincolnshire word meaning - a bit of a job, messing about.  Looked it up in Dictionary and found it had sexual connotations. Smiley

Jeff,
First of all, Terry is preparing an image for you of your orf, that combines Refine and Editor screens.
I wanted you to see what ODR would do, and he is making the final for printing.
I had a peek, and I assure you that you will think it was a miracle.

He is supposed to post it, but he would rather weed his garden.  Now that's a clat.
I looked it up in two dictionaries, and it says: British, meaning Dung or distasteful task.

If you use a different vowel that might have sexual connotations.

((((Just like the generation today thinks texting is conversation, so they think an iphone is a camera.))))

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