Mike Chaney's Tech Corner
July 21, 2019, 06:19:06 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: Feb 2013: Qimage Ultimate Challenges... have fun and explore features!
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  

Professional ICC Profiling Software for Windows
Create custom ICC profiles with
Profile Prism for accurate color!
Pages: 1 [2] 3
  Print  
Author Topic: Canon Pro 10 30mm forced border work-around with fine art papers  (Read 2296 times)
ChicagoRob
Newbie
*
Posts: 13


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2018, 12:07:29 AM »

You can override the 30mm margin with all of the fine art choices. You need to watch Jose Rodriguez's YouTube video, which was a live stream and aired 12-15-18. The tutorial is towards the end. 

Is Mike's hack the same as Jose Rodriguez's hack on his You tube video. I can not replicate this on my Pro-10

Claude.


Yes, they are the same. What, exactly, is the problem? Maybe Mike can step in and help out.
Logged
admin
Administrator
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 2803



View Profile Email
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2018, 12:51:27 AM »

There are some things that we didn't discover until after Jose's video.  Jose's video will work provided you set things up this way:

(1) You need to be running Qimage Ultimate 2019.105 or later.

(2) Prior to printing, you have to make sure your printer is showing 600x600 PPI above the live view in Qimage Ultimate.  If you see 1200x1200, you'll get the wrong size print, so in order to achieve the native 600x600 PPI driver resolution, you have to open the driver properties and set "Prevention of print data loss" to "On (weak)".  You do that on the Page Setup tab in the driver: print options button.

After making those prerequisite settings, Jose's video should work to override the 30mm margins.

Regards,
Mike
Logged
moriclau
Newbie
*
Posts: 18


View Profile Email
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2018, 09:30:07 PM »

There are some things that we didn't discover until after Jose's video.  Jose's video will work provided you set things up this way:

(1) You need to be running Qimage Ultimate 2019.105 or later.

(2) Prior to printing, you have to make sure your printer is showing 600x600 PPI above the live view in Qimage Ultimate.  If you see 1200x1200, you'll get the wrong size print, so in order to achieve the native 600x600 PPI driver resolution, you have to open the driver properties and set "Prevention of print data loss" to "On (weak)".  You do that on the Page Setup tab in the driver: print options button.

After making those prerequisite settings, Jose's video should work to override the 30mm margins.

Regards,
Mike

Hi,

I upgraded to the latest version of QIU and got it to work. I printed without the border limitation using Moab entrada rag bright paper. Tested the hack with 3 paper choices, other fine art 2, other fine at 1 and photo matte pro premium.  In all cases the print is fine. With the other fine art 1 paper choice, I got message about having to change a raw spoooling setting. Then I was offered to go ahead with the print even if QI could not do that change. I said yes and the print came out fine.

Thanks,
Claude
Logged
Mahakaal
Newbie
*
Posts: 2


View Profile Email
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 03:52:42 AM »

Quote
Comments and/or suggestions greatly appreciated.

I have never seen Jose`s tutorial, but I defeated the 30mm trap years ago.
Stay off the paper selections that say 30 in the name.
Use either Other Fine art Paper 2 or Premium Matte N.
See my attached screen snaps
Works fine
Fred

Rekindling this thread Fred Smiley
I have a quick question - in the screen grab you shared I see that you are letting the Printer Driver control the color instead of using an icc profile. Any reasons ?
Logged
Fred A
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 5047



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2019, 11:01:21 AM »

Quote
Rekindling this thread Fred Smiley
I have a quick question - in the screen grab you shared I see that you are letting the Printer Driver control the color instead of using an icc profile. Any reasons ?

Good day.
No reason, other than it had no bearing on the question and the answer: 30mm margins.
I switched to a Pro 10 driver to make a screen snap of the driver actually in question and just didn't bother hunting for the matching profile.

Good question, though
I made printer setups for the paper and profiles that do not force margins, so I don't even have to try to remember which is which next time.
Fred
« Last Edit: February 08, 2019, 11:03:08 AM by Fred A » Logged
mike397x
Full Member
***
Posts: 159


View Profile Email
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2019, 09:12:12 PM »

So,After going over this thread twice,can I assume, that when I have my qimage setup page set to matte black, it is definitely using matte black ink??

Just want to clarify..


Thanks,
Mike
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 10:28:39 PM by mike397x » Logged
admin
Administrator
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 2803



View Profile Email
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2019, 03:19:10 PM »

So,After going over this thread twice,can I assume, that when I have my qimage setup page set to matte black, it is definitely using matte black ink??

Just want to clarify..


Thanks,
Mike

Whether or not the printer uses matte black ink is determined only by the media type selection in the driver.  So on the Pro-10, if you select the fine art matte paper in the driver, it'll use matte black ink regardless of whether you print with the 30mm margins or use the hack to print without the large margins.

Regards,
Mike
Logged
mike397x
Full Member
***
Posts: 159


View Profile Email
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2019, 09:01:46 PM »

I made a couple of prints using the "matte photo paper setting",in the media setting, the prints came out,ok{usable}..6 &1/2 X 10ins.,on 8&1/2 x 11in. paper.
Nor sure if I'm doing this correctly???

MikeS.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2019, 09:11:24 PM by mike397x » Logged
Fred A
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 5047



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2019, 08:21:38 AM »

Quote
made a couple of prints using the "matte photo paper setting",in the media setting, the prints came out,ok{usable}..6 &1/2 X 10ins.,on 8&1/2 x 11in. paper.
Nor sure if I'm doing this correctly???

MikeS.
That sounds right, Mike.
If you want the full 8 x 10 print, turn on on the crop scissors after selecting the image in Live View.
Fred
Logged
mike397x
Full Member
***
Posts: 159


View Profile Email
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 08:54:21 AM »

Thanks Fred....tech question---is it true that the matte black ink, puts out a denser,deeper, black
or, is this false??
I've tried to make comparisons ,using matte black & photo black{with luster/glossy paper?}, I always end up going back to photo black,
Maybe its a personnel preference?
Could it be the addition of CO ink, that deepens the results???

MikeS.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2019, 02:16:22 PM by mike397x » Logged
admin
Administrator
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 2803



View Profile Email
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2019, 02:47:51 PM »

You would have to be the judge.  If you select "Matte Photo Paper" and you are using a Pro-10, the printer will use photo black ink.  If you use Photo Paper Pro Premium Matte, it will use matte black ink but with this paper selected, you'd have to use the margin hack if you don't want the 30mm margins.  You could print one of both and compare.  From what I've read, the matte black ink does produce blacker blacks but it is subtle and whether or not you actually want blacker blacks is a personal preference.

Regards,
Mike
Logged
mike397x
Full Member
***
Posts: 159


View Profile Email
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2019, 03:12:29 PM »

Excellent,thanks Mike

MikeS
Logged
jrsforums
Jr. Member
**
Posts: 52


View Profile Email
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2019, 05:13:45 PM »

Can someone provide a link to the YouTube video?
Logged
mike397x
Full Member
***
Posts: 159


View Profile Email
« Reply #28 on: February 11, 2019, 06:32:38 PM »

Are talking about Jose' Roriguez video
If so,here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8L45kkrE7g

Mike
Logged
admin
Administrator
Forum Superhero
*****
Posts: 2803



View Profile Email
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2019, 06:40:37 PM »

That video shows the "hardware hack".  The Qimage software hack allows you to print with matte black ink, without the 30mm borders, and without swapping carts and incurring ink purge cycles due to swapping carts.  Jose was going to do a video on the Qimage software hack but that was about 3-4 weeks ago.  I think he's had other projects to work on and hasn't had time but I believe he still plans to make the video.

Mike
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!