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Author Topic: Combining DFS and TTS  (Read 20121 times)
Fred A
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« on: October 26, 2012, 10:15:21 AM »

Hi,
I get emails asking, Now that we have DFS, what do I do with Tone Targeted Sharpening?

Nothing has changed in that area at all.

Deep Focus Sharpening is just the next gigundus step in digital sharpening, similar to Fuel Injectors replacing carburetors.
It replaces USM as the fuel injector replaced the carburetor.

So with that in mind, I submit a gentle image for your inspection and the control settings that I selected to bring out the effect I wanted.
Not too impressive on here, but amazing on the home screen. You will have to try your own to see.

So what did I do?
I Told TTS, "Do not sharpen the water. You can see in the second snap that "EX TONE" is selected and I clicked on the water as the color to leave alone.
Technically, that means sharpen everything except the color I selected.
The EQ slider automatically goes full right, which narrows the colors to fulfill the request.
Now I added some Radius and some strength and kept checking the distant shore for sharpening effect and the boats.

The effect I achieved looks like 3D on my screen and my print. Too bad I am limited to 128K here and have to compromise the quality to show it.

So I invite you to experiment and show some of what effects you get and how you did it.

Have some fun! Please!!

Fred

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 10:56:01 AM »

Something similar.
I excluded the water tone to avoid that being a distraction from the main subject.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 10:57:05 AM »

Something different.
I chose to TTS saturated colours to pick out the Mickey Mouse dolls in their bright colours without affecting the box the box they are in.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 11:11:27 AM »

Basic TTS, select a tone to sharpen to the exclusion of almost everything else.
This with big DFS numbers  Shocked ... to give contrast to the details.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 01:32:42 PM »

Great examples, guys, as usual.  Terry, on the rose...WOW.  Just wow.  Got to go back and re-do some of my flower close-ups, now that I can do them properly.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 01:36:23 PM »


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Terry, on the rose...WOW.  Just wow

Owen,
What am I, 'Chopped Liver' ?

 Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry

Fred
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 02:07:53 PM »

Foie gras, very definitely.

Hey, I specifically said, "Great examples, guys."  Plural!  Plural!  Terry just happened to post an image that's similar to a lot of stuff I shoot.  Not much opportunity for me to shoot nautical scenes out here in the NW Illinois cornfields.

On your image, I wonder what would have happened if you had tried to apply that level of sharpening with USM instead of DFS.  I speculate that halos would have been apparent around the masts and lines.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 03:17:56 PM »

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I wonder what would have happened if you had tried to apply that level of sharpening with USM instead of DFS.
With the size of image that we can attach, the differences are not easily seen. There are halos with USM, on the edge of petals and the rain drops and the whole appearance is more harsh.
Terry
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 03:48:24 PM »

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Terry just happened to post an image that's similar to a lot of stuff I shoot.

We have flowers and chopped liver!

In the first image, the flowers are multi colored, and there's a black dragon fly. So not much point to Target One selected tone.
Much more logic to saying Sharpen everything except the green, or leave it alone and sharpen everything.

The other flower is just a beautiful flower, and I used Sharpen all except the green to make sure the eye was not distracted by any greenery.

Nah, Nah, na na nah.

I have flowers too

Fred
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 04:17:15 PM »

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Terry just happened to post an image that's similar to a lot of stuff I shoot.

We have flowers and chopped liver! foie gras, s'il vous plait![/i]

In the first image, the flowers are multi colored, and there's a black dragon fly. So not much point to Target One selected tone.
Much more logic to saying Sharpen everything except the green, or leave it alone and sharpen everything.

The other flower is just a beautiful flower, and I used Sharpen all except the green to make sure the eye was not distracted by any greenery.

Nah, Nah, na na nah.

I have flowers too

Fred

DOUBLE WOW!  Man, I've GOT to go back to my best flower shots and re-do them with DFS.

I've been traveling and otherwise away from these forums for quite a while, but you guys have certainly made it easy for me to get up to speed on what's new.  Great examples, likewise, in the "QU 2013 imminent" thread.

As I've said before, can you believe these forums are free?
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 06:36:27 PM »

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Man, I've GOT to go back to my best flower shots and re-do them with DFS.
Do it soon and show us the result please.  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 06:50:45 PM »

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Do it soon and show us the result please. 
Terry
It's too late already.
He lives in Northern Illinois.
You know how many people have been scampering to photograph the fall colors?

Owen is building snowmen!

Fred  (Who lives in Florida)
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 06:51:39 PM »

Another "basic" TTS with a slight twist, see below, my little place in the country  Grin
The tone of the building was selected to help make it stand out but the slider was set down to 65% so the foreground vegetation was sharpened a little too.
Reducing the slider in TTS reduces the selectivity of the TTS; thus in this case,  a degree of green etc. was included in the sharpening as well as building's red tones.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 06:55:41 PM »

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You know how many people have been scampering to photograph the fall colors?
I'll tell you after tomorrow; I hope to do that in Gloucestershire.  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2012, 05:09:48 PM »

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Man, I've GOT to go back to my best flower shots and re-do them with DFS.
Do it soon and show us the result please.  Cool
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Man, I've GOT to go back to my best flower shots and re-do them with DFS.
Do it soon and show us the result please.  Cool
Terry

Okay, first attempt.  Perhaps not the best example, since I may not have applied proper sharpening to the original image.  But it's the same image I posted in this thread: http://ddisoftware.com/tech/qimage-ultimate/tts-neutrals/msg9880/#msg9880

First image: USM, radius 2, 150, slider at 80%.
Second image: DFS, radius 5, 400, slider at 80% (in next post)

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