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tonygamble
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« on: October 17, 2013, 07:20:27 PM »

I am creating vertical strips of, say, six prints. Today's was about 40cms by 10cms.

Several of the images have a white line between them which is around 1 mm deep.

I cannot see this when I do either an HQ preview or a Soft Proof. Why?

Yes I could slightly overlay one print over the other, but that sounds too unscientific an approach to be using around here!!!

Is there a better way of safeguarding it does not happen again?

Tony
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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 07:28:55 PM »

Hi Tony,
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I cannot see this when I do either an HQ preview or a Soft Proof. Why?
If your page size is large, it may not show, only guessing!
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Is there a better way of safeguarding it does not happen again?
First check you haven't got a border set accidently.
Second, go to the Page Editor, select say, the left hand image, use CTRL right arrow to ensure it is exactly butting to the adjacent one. Then go through the remainder using CTRL arrow to butt the others.
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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 08:36:03 PM »

Thanks Terry,

Page siz is A3+ so I guess that should show it.

And, yes, I do the control joggle to the left and right to get the column straight.

And control up and down to get the closeness.

Ah well. We'll have to wait for the others to respond.

Tony
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 09:14:41 AM »

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Ah well. We'll have to wait for the others to respond.

Terry,
You might want to ask Tony if he has any borders turned on in white.
That shows up as a space between smaller prints.

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 09:56:55 AM »

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I am creating vertical strips of, say, six prints. Today's was about 40cms by 10cms.

Several of the images have a white line between them which is around 1 mm deep.

Tony,
Can you give more info so I can try to simulate/emulate what you are doing?

A few screen snaps of the main screen  (placement selection, print size, printable area size) and some of the Page editor showing the placement, page orientation, and the gap.
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 10:16:21 AM »

Will do Fred.

I've got another question about templates - but let's see if we/you can spot where these lines are coming from.

Bye for a mo (bought the new Ricoh GR on Wednesday and still absorbing the manual - it's a cracker and has a much larger sensor than the old ones had).

Tony
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 10:26:30 AM »

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Ricoh GR

Just looked it up. That's quite a glowing review....  Large sensor and a sharp lens...

Good luck with it.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 12:29:18 PM »

Hi Fred,

Sorry about the delay. Got too involved in taking photographs and consequently less time on the PC.

My screen shots were too large to attach here. I think the titles explain them.

http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/full%20page%20editor.jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/hq%20preview.jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/main.jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/printer%20properties.jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/soft%20proof.jpg
http://www.tonygamble.org/proofs1/_1590344.jpg

Maybe they will give you  a clue.

Out for an hour.

Bye for now.

Tony
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 01:37:49 PM »

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Maybe they will give you  a clue.

Sorry, Tony.
There are random size images on the page. The one that is selected is 4" x 3". The others are different sizes. I can only see the 00 borders for that image. I cannot tell what is set for the other images. 
So I cannot add up the sizes either since they are all different, unless you want to report the size of the images.
Did you size by hand or by Print Properties. 
It looks like you just need to move that bottom image up by using CTRL UP ARROW as Terry said.

What would work is either a step by step description of what you did from opening Qimage to the point you are now, or best bet is a video for me...
(I have sent you a number of HOW TO videos in the past)... Can I see one from you? That would make it easy peasy.

Fred

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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2013, 04:44:55 PM »

Thanks Fred,

Firstly I am working in metric.

For my notice board I need two columns of images that are 10 cms wide and 60 deep. I cannot get a 60 cms column out of my A3+ paper so I am working with two columns - 20 cms and 40 cms. If the resultant column is not exactly 60cms it does not matter. The one I did on Friday came out closer to 70 cms when I taped together the two shorter components.

What is critical is that all the prints making up the column are 10cms wide.

I have a mixture of horizontal (10 by 7.5) and vertical (10 by 15) shots.

I go through my selection and I put all the verticals on my two sheets of A3+ and I make sure each one is 10cms by 15 cms.

I then go through my horizontals and add them to the A3+ sheets and make each one 10 cms by 7.5 cms.

I then move them around in Freehand mode so I can build up my four columns. I make sure they align vertically by using the Ctr Left/Right cursor.

I then move them up and down so that the top of one image is abutting the bottom of the one above. You will see in my screen shots that they do.
I use Ctl Up and down to get them to abut perfectly - or so I think

The soft proof and the HQ proof confirm there are no gaps - and yet they occure in my print.

I have looked in the Print Queue and every shot is either 100x75 or 100x150 in mms.

The bottom image was not intended to fit under the man in the red sweater. I agree that I could have pushed up with the CTR Up arrow but I left it as a stray as I wanted to use it on another column and sellotape was quicker than moving it to another sheet.

On my screen shots it might suggest that the image of the lady (above the man in red) is the rogue image in that it has white at the top and bottom. But it looks normal in the queue so I am a bit stuck as what to look at next.

Does this help? I don't mind doing a video but there will be a learning curve there first.

Tony
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 05:58:16 PM »

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Firstly I am working in metric.

OK That's fine... If I get messed up in metric, I can call Terry. Smiley Cheesy

First question:
I get a printable area of 323 x 477 mms.
You show, 324 x 474 mms.  WHY?
I have Super A3 or A3+... according to DPreview, both the same size paper.
Why is the size different.
Have a look in the driver screen to see if it is making any changes.
See Snap attached

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 06:16:08 PM »

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I then move them up and down so that the top of one image is abutting the bottom of the one above. You will see in my screen shots that they do.
I use Ctl Up and down to get them to abut perfectly - or so I think

OK See my attached screen snap.
This took 3 minutes....
I am stopping here so I don't go too far astray.
Other than I made two columns so far, and the fact that you didn't mention how many prints to add, HOW DOES IT LOOK?

Prints 75mm wide and 100 mm tall if portrait orientation.
Horizontals are 100 mm wide and 75mm tall

Let me know what is missing and how  many prints and columns.

Fred
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 06:33:35 PM »

Thanks Fred,

Reply One is suggesting I look at the Print Driver. OK, I'll do that first thing tomorrow.

Reply Two. No the idea is as per my screen shots. The column should have a constant width, namely 100 mm and the height of each image should vary so that the vertical is 150 mm and the landscape is 75 mm. That was what was happening in the screen shots I posted - not images that had varied widths.

But allowing for that difference of approach my screens look the same as yours. My problem is that when I make a print I get the occasional white line between images - not every time, just ocasionally.

I'll look at the Printer Driver and report back tomorrow.

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 06:34:25 PM »

Thanks Fred,

Reply One is suggesting I look at the Print Driver. OK, I'll do that first thing tomorrow.

Reply Two. No the idea is as per my screen shots. The column should have a constant width, namely 100 mm and the height of each image should vary so that the vertical is 150 mm and the landscape is 75 mm. That was what was happening in the screen shots I posted - not images that had varied widths.

"I need two columns of images that are 10 cms wide and 60 deep"

But allowing for that difference of approach my screens look the same as yours. My problem is that when I make a print I get the occasional white line between images - not every time, just ocasionally.

I'll look at the Printer Driver and report back tomorrow.


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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 06:47:53 PM »

OK, here they are at 150mm tall and 100mm wide.
No problem again!!

Fred
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