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Fred A
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 11:11:39 AM »

Just poking around in Costco's site for their requirements for printing.
Looks very reasonable to me.
I also notice they have two prices. A cheaper one for just a print with no tweaking, and another price for color correction...

I was specifically looking at 11 x 14 size because I just bought a 50 sheet pack of Epson Premium 5 star Luster. I bought the A3 size which is larger than 11 x 14, but less money.
60 dollars in my hand including shopping, which makes it 1.20 a sheet.
I get to preview and sample before banging out 4 or 5 prints of 11 x 14 size... and most important, I enjoy printing my own.
5 prints would cost me 5 x 4.20 plus 7.00 shipping at Costco, and it's a turkey shoot if they were as good as they could be.

Of course, each person chooses his own path.  For different reasons...
I like to make larger than 4 x 6. I make those for my neighbors.
Most of mine are 8 x 10, 11 x 14, full A3, and 13 x 19.

On ink, well that's a sensitive topic. I began to have severe clogging with Epson ink.   (Depends where it was manufactured. Mine was made in China) This all came about after Epson was sued for having a low ink warning when there was plenty left. As a result, they changed to allowing sucking silt before the warning would show. (Terry uses the same ink as I and has no trouble. His ink in manufactured in Europe I believe)
So I tried some 3rd party inks here and there and threw out some ink.... and I finally found ink for my R 1800 that is consistent, great color, no clogging, pigment type, and about 5 dollars instead of $17.51 each.
Been using it for 1 year, have reordered many times, and made prints of the same image to check the color when I get a new shipment.
So my ink cost is no longer a deal breaker.
Love to hear some opinions....

Fred
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 05:26:30 PM »

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Terry uses the same ink as I and has no trouble. His ink in manufactured in Europe I believe
I've just checked a few used cartridges; recent ones say Mexico, others were USA. I have has European made in the past.
My R800 is getting on now, at least 8 years old, I'll have to check my records. Edit - correction, it's 6.5 years old
I've very  few clogging problems but I always do a simple nozzle check before printing something critical if the printer has not been used for 24 hours.
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 07:34:50 PM »

Hi Fred -

An unrelated question first; how does one use the quote function? I don't seem to get what I want, i.e., just a blue section with the quote.

O.K. print stuff.  I basically don't print anything for myself. In fact, I have just one print of my work in the entire house. I do have prints made at COSTCO in the 4x6 size for use in making greeting cards. Folks can pick the images they want and I have them printed, "tack" them onto the front of high quality blank cards that let the sender write what they want on the inside with the recipient being able to safely remove the photo for any use they want. The card goes with a matching envelope and both are enclosed in a translucent envelope.

I have four printers: HP LJ4, Panasonic Workio CL500 (color laser), Epson Stylus Photo 1270, and an HP Designjet 130 nr which I just recently purchased for $600 from the camera store where I worked for several years. The last two can be used for photo printing I know, but for the most part the cost of printing on the Epson has far exceeded the cost & convenience of having COSTCO do it. If the consumables weren't so expensive, I might consider giving them both a go. Would you consider sharing your ink source offline if this isn't the place to do it. (dcjohan@centurylink.net)

The purchase of the Designjet was with the idea that I might do some large prints, but at the moment cost is one of the two main reasons I'm not doing my own stuff. QU and cheaper ink/paper might just change my mind.

The other reason for not doing my own printing is the time involved. For the past 8 years I've been sending out a daily photo with a story that accompanies it to a large mailing list called The Daily Image, and 2 years ago I added a Smugmug site (that's what you looked at). Shooting the raw material and then editing the final product for these daily mailings takes up a fair amount of time. Learning to use the software to do it all also adds to the time load and mastering QU will just add to it. On top of that, I am strongly looking at moving away from the Adobe products due to Adobe corporate attitudes, which means that I now need to invest even more time learning to better incorporate the other graphics editing programs I have. Taking the time to master all the nuances of printing will be just one more demand on my time which is getting pretty scarce right about now. I'm sure I will get to that point later in the year, but for the immediate I have to concentrate my time in areas with the biggest payoff.

So for now I will continue to use COSTCO, work to master QU, and hope that my investment in QU will pay off in a much shorter learning curve when I do tackle home printing.

dave
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 08:09:22 PM »

Dave,
I looked up your ISP. The location.
Do the attached images strike a familiar chord?

Unless I am way off base, you should recognize these two pix.

Fred

PS You said Kitsap area, but maybe you were joking?
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »

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n unrelated question first; how does one use the quote function? I don't seem to get what I want, i.e., just a blue section with the quote.

Hi Dave,
I'm laughing because it wasn't that long ago, I was asking the same question.

First you do a normal windows select text and COPY
Then you create your Reply, and click the second icon button from the right. Hover the mouse and it should say, Insert Quote.
Click that, and then Ctrl V to paste it.
Then I find that I have to move the cursor manually to get it out of the Quote area,

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 09:30:09 PM »

Hi Fred -

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PS You said Kitsap area, but maybe you were joking?

No, the images aren't all that familiar, but I did say the Kitsap area, more specifically the North Kitsap Peninsula in WA state. Here is the address, you can Google map it.  34299 Pilot Point Road NE, Eglon, WA 98346. Google will want the city provided as Kingston, but they are separate communities. Google should point to a 10A parcel situated between Pilot Point Road and Bodine Road. The blue area to the right is Puget Sound. On the other side of the blue about 15 miles to the south sits Seattle......I just read your email so I guess you are quite familiar with the area. Grin

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 09:58:34 PM »

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No, the images aren't all that familiar, but I did say the Kitsap area, more specifically the North Kitsap Peninsula in WA state. Here is the address, you can Google map it.  34299 Pilot Point Road NE, Eglon, WA 98346. Google will want the city provided as Kingston, but they are separate communities. Google should point to a 10A parcel situated between Pilot Point Road and Bodine Road. The blue area to the right is Puget Sound. On the other side of the blue about 15 miles to the south sits Seattle......I just read your email so I guess you are quite familiar with the area.

dave
Nope.
I'm all fouled up as usual.
I looked at Centurylink, and Google shows it in Punta Gorda Florida.
I had a friend help me track you down, and Kitsap it is...
I found that on the map.
But it seems that Centurylink is a part of Centurytel which is huge!
They have offices all over.
Forgive my intrusion.
For a moment, I thought, hey you must be 20 miles away from me.

I Apologize.

Fred
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 10:18:27 PM »

Hi Fred -

Yup, they are everywhere, and I've never had poorer service. Talking to Centurylink is like talking to a wall. Only the wall is more responsive!

I don't think you intruded in any way!!  In fact, I was thinking how good it would be if we were co-located and I'm delighted you made the inquiry.  Smiley

Now I'm rather certain you are on the right coast and likely somewhere in FL. I had two tours in P-Cola and I can't say I enjoyed the weather, or the bugs!

dave
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 10:39:13 PM »

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Now I'm rather certain you are on the right coast and likely somewhere in FL. I had two tours in P-Cola and I can't say I enjoyed the weather, or the bugs!

Pensacola is 350 miles away from me...  I am on the Gulf of Mexico, 60 miles south of Tampa; no bugs at all.
The Gulf keeps us breezy and cool in summer, and comfy in winter. We are actually cooer than Tampa in summer, and warmer in winter.
Right now it's only 78 degrees. It was 53 at dawn.
You can tell by that swing, it's dry as can be this time of year. No Humditty-ditty

Fred
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 11:00:13 PM »

That's very close to what we experienced in the winter in P-Cola; however, the summers were VERY hot and VERY humid with lots of nasty bugs, especially love bugs, fire ants, and mole crickets.  The winters were nice, but more of what I considered summers should be!

Here the winters are as bad as the summers there, and the humidity is in the form of rain, rain, and more rain. Equally ugly, but the summers, when they arrive, are really nice plus there is just so much to shoot that it is truly a photographer's paradise, and what you can't find close by is just a drive down I-5 or along the coast.

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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2013, 02:44:58 AM »

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Either Save as from the editor or put in the queue, right click and select convert; auto renaming is an option there along with many others.

Thanks Terry, I was going nuts trying to find a way to save a test image before I remembered that there had been a comment about how it is done.  Much appreciated. I don't think that has been covered in any of the videos or I simply missed it somehow.

dave
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