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Author Topic: Problem with setting size on Epson R2880  (Read 15318 times)
Fred A
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« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2011, 09:14:20 PM »

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One oddity, when I print out images that, up to now, fitted well into this size without cropping them, the prints come out with the side margins greater than the top and bottom.  If I put auto-crop on they are cropped and come out totally symmetrical.

Pete,
I don't know the origins of the images for your prints. Were they cropped earlier? Are they from a camera?
Regardless, Qimage Ultimate is telling you that your requested print size 8.0 x 10.5 is a different shape (aspect ratio) from the image shape.
Qimage needs permission to crop a little on one side to allow it to expand the image to fill your other side.

Look at it this way.

Most SLR cameras produce an image at a ratio of 3:2. Most typical Point and Shoot cameras produce an image with a 4:3 ratio.
If you wanted to print a 5 x 7 print, neither aspect ratio matches 5 x 7, so Qimage will have to crop a little to fill out your size request.

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Oh, how do i make these setting default so I do not have to do the whole setup each time?

Default?    Just close Qimage. It remembers everything. Next time you open it, it will be just like it is now.
If you should want to save the settings and use them on another day,

You can click FILE SAVE , and when the box opens you can click the S button and save the SETTINGS, or tick the "J" button and save the JOB.
When you want it again, click FILE RECALL and click the correct button and load it.
Another easy way to recall the settings is:
Click File and then OPEN Automated Job Log.
Find your previous print; highlight it, OPEN!
That's all there is to it.

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« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2011, 09:37:34 PM »

Pete,
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One oddity, when I print out images that, up to now, fitted well into this size without cropping them, the prints come out with the side margins greater than the top and bottom.  If I put auto-crop on they are cropped and come out totally symmetrical.
Not an oddity, it's all to do with aspect ratio of the image and print size. The side margins are bigger with crop scissors off because the aspect ratio of the image is not the same as the print.
Example.
10.5 x 8.0, ratio is  1.313
If the image is 1.5 (DSLR full size) the with crop scissors off the print will be 10.5 x 7.0
With crop scissors on, the image would be cropped. See screen shot attachments below.
2 off the page preview and one from the Cropping tab in the Page Editor
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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2011, 12:04:59 AM »

Fred and Terry.

That is all true, and I am using files from a DSLR.  The only problem I am having is up to now I have had no problem with this file (or others like it) needing a crop to be printed at 8.5 X 11 with a margin even of 0.25.  I have never had to drop to such a small print as I do now.

I can live with it, just curious why it is behaving this way now.

Again, thanks for solving my basic problem.  It was very annoying and you have gotten me back in business!


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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2011, 09:00:23 AM »

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That is all true, and I am using files from a DSLR.  The only problem I am having is up to now I have had no problem with this file (or others like it) needing a crop to be printed at 8.5 X 11 with a margin even of 0.25.  I have never had to drop to such a small print as I do now.
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Assuming your file is the same pixel size as tyour DSL camera, it's ratio is 1.5. A print of 8.5x11 is 1.29; one that is 8 x 10.5 is 1.31.
It's simple arithmetic that the 1.5 image does not fit 8.5x11 or 8x10.5, hence the need to crop. Of course 8.5x11 is not possible on 8.5x11 paper unless borderless is set.
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I have never had to drop to such a small print as I do now
What exactly do you mean by this, quote numbers? On that paper the biggest you can print is about 8.25x10.75 (no borderless set) and about 1/8th inch margins. I think you wanted 1/4" margins which we've dealt with already.
If you think you've printed bigger than this before in some other application, you've been fooled.
You had better watch the learning video "Aspect Ratios and Cropping" here: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=pgHp45B1QXo&vq=hd720
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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2011, 10:29:04 AM »

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If you think you've printed bigger than this before in some other application, you've been fooled.

Better listen to Terry.
He can do this tricky number stuff even in metric!

Seriously,
Had the crop scissor been on by default, you probably wouldn't have noticed as the print would have fit the printable area on the first insertion.
That's what the "other" programs do. 
"You want an 10.5 x 8.0? You got it!" They never give you the option of controlling crop on or off, 

Terry gave you some great screen snaps yesterday.
You can even control the placement of the crop. See the 4 screen snaps attached.

You slide the little picture around to include and exclude what you want. This is done in the PAGE EDITOR SCREEN.

Peter,
We (Terry especially, and I) would appreciate you telling is the pixel dimensions of the image you are going to print.
Simply place your mouse cursor on the thumbnail of this image, and read the dimensions in the "hotbar" lower left corner of Qimage/

You are looking for 2348 x 3522..... something like that!
Terry will explain it best from that information.

Thanks,
Fred

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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2011, 04:31:54 PM »

Fred and Terry

I did some checking in the other program and you were correct.  It was cropping automatically without notifying me of that fact.

You are correct. You are limited by the size of the paper and the amount of space the printer needs to print an image on that size of paper.

Thank you both for all your help.  I now understand what is going on and what I was doing wrong in setting up Qimage.

If I ever have any problems printing in Qimage again I also now know where to come to find great help in sorting it out.


Thanks again to you both.

Pete

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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2011, 05:09:59 PM »

Hi Pete,
We are pleased that you have got there. Qimage Ultimate is precise about print sizes, you can always see what size is being sent to the printer by looking on the Queue tab below the Preview.
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If I ever have any problems printing in Qimage again I also now know where to come to find great help in sorting it out.
You are welcome  Wink
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