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Author Topic: Some grumbling going on over here...  (Read 75860 times)
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« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2010, 11:09:24 PM »

CS3 - April 16, 2007
CS4 - October 15, 2008
CS5 - April 30, 2010

So if I were nitpicking, I think I'd have to split the difference between your 2 years and my 1 and call it about 18 months. Smiley

Nitpicking some more...

Adobe - $200 upgrade versus $700 new (PS Standard).  With an 18 month renewal cycle that works out to $133 per year or 19% per year (133/700).

QU - $20 yearly subscription versus $90 new.  That works out to 22% per year (20/90).

I think I have those numbers right.
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« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2010, 11:39:51 PM »

Mike

You missed version CS2 April, 2005 and version 1 in Feb, 1990 (CS5 is version 12 introduced in 4/2010 thus 11 versions in over 20 years)

However, your nitpicking about this extraneous s*** is really beginning to piss me off.  Your current business model isn't different from others and your whining about all the free support over the years is tiring after awhile.  That was your decision.  I wasn't one of your customers from the beginning so I can't speak to the early days and the rapid incorporation of features (I assume similar to what's appears to be happening in QU) which is really market research.   I found the discussions/help in the forums interesting but by the time I'd advanced enough to arrive at that problem since I'm not full time doing this, I had difficulty finding it.  I would have preferred that the manual was more frequently updated to reflect that knowledge and added changes than trying to search for it in the forums.

You don't discuss the issues that people have expressed in this section but rather berate them for feeling disappointed and grumbling about feeling left behind.  The questions/feelings brought up regarding competitive discounts are real and shouldn't be glossed over.  It's your business and you can do what you want but I find that your attitude is different from your past discussions/help and thus disturbing and you should reflect on it and how it is affecting our relationship.  
 
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« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2010, 09:14:46 AM »

Why don't all you whiners shut up now!
What's all this nonsense about percentages, you must fall for all the store sales stuff that says 50% off an already inflated price. It's the cash flow that matters don't you know! You spend '1000's on expensive equipment and software yet begrudge $90 and Mike making an honest living. It is not Mike's problem that you are in whining mode, it's yours. There’s ignorance or naivety been shown about interchange ability of raw adjustment files, get real please!
None of you whiners on this thread seem to have ever made a positive contribution on this forum, never helped anyone with a problem, never shared your photographic and software experience on "how to ...." with Qimage or any other software.
You whiners say you are fed up with Mike on this, well, let me tell you, the majority of others here are fed up with you, so SHUT UP now, please!
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« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2010, 09:28:02 AM »


BRAVO!   Terry
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« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2010, 01:39:28 PM »

Nitpicking some more...

Adobe - $200 upgrade versus $700 new (PS Standard).  With an 18 month renewal cycle that works out to $133 per year or 19% per year (133/700).

QU - $20 yearly subscription versus $90 new.  That works out to 22% per year (20/90).

I think I have those numbers right.

It's all a matter of perspective and the value you assign to things.  It takes Adobe a year and a half to release a "major" upgrade with 3,900 employees while I can make more significant improvements in my own software in one year.  Fact is, a major upgrade is a major upgrade.  Adobe charges you $200/$700 or 29% for major upgrades.  I charge $20/$90 or 22%.  I can't help that I work faster than they do nor the fact that I can offer you MUCH more value for your money!  It took them 18 months to release CS5 for which their flagship feature, content aware, works in only a small number of hand picked cases.  They want you to buy it though, so they stop supporting camera raw in CS4 so that if you buy a new camera, you'll be forced to buy CS5 to be able to use raw with that camera even though it isn't much of an upgrade from CS4.

Let's face it, regardless of my methods, there will always be a few people in a crowd of a thousand who will complain.  One person may complain because they assign a different value to different features or different upgrade plans than most.  Another may complain because they assumed that "free upgrades" meant that development on that particular program was open ended and unlimited and I would never come out with new software with similar functionality.  And at the far end of the spectrum, some might complain just because they have a very warped view of the word "value".  That's just the nature of business.  In the mean time, Lite, Pro, and Studio are still supported and upgraded.  I think most people are smart enough to determine whether they need the new work I'm doing in Ultimate and whether it is worth the price to them.  To decide, it only requires balancing your budget with your needs.  Isn't that how we all decide whether or not to buy a new model of anything?

So at this point, I think every avenue has already been covered on this topic.

Mike
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