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bennybennison
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« on: March 03, 2017, 02:41:14 PM »

Hi all, I want to print with a border which is relative to the paper size and not relative to the image size. When I am using the software to create borders I can add a border which is X mm relative to the image that I am printing but I want a quick way to choose a border which is relative to the paper instead.

So for instance I might want to select a 297 mm by 210 mm sheet of paper and I want to use an image which is 100 mm by 100 mm. I can easily select to have a border which is 10 mm in relation to the image by selecting the standard border preferences but I want to have a border relative to the paper instead. Basically this is for printing runs of images which are all going to be standard paper sizes but include variable borders. Say 10 images that are all going to be printed A4, will all need to fit into an A4 frame, but are all variable in proportion. I need the border as a reference for quick cutting.

Hopefully this makes sense but if it doesn't let me know and I can clarify.

Thanks,
Ben
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 05:29:19 PM »

Hi Ben and welcome,

Seems like you should be able to do what you need using the page margins.  You can go to Edit, Preferences, Print and Page Formatting, Page Margins, and enter margins such that the printable area is reduced to the size you want such as A4 (potentially on a larger than A4 page).  Once you set the margins to give you the page size you want, you can just use the "Fit to Page" sizing option and the prints will always be within your newly defined page size.

Does this help?

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Mike
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2017, 08:11:57 AM »

Hi Ben,
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want to have a border relative to the paper instead. Basically this is for printing runs of images which are all going to be standard paper sizes but include variable borders. Say 10 images that are all going to be printed A4, will all need to fit into an A4 frame, but are all variable in proportion. I need the border as a reference for quick cutting.
I think I'm interpreting your requirements differently from Mike.
To me it seems you want a printed border always around the edge of the page with the image within the page and white space between image and border.
See attached screen shots - the black border is deliberately thick to make it visible to you.
The images each have different aspect ratios
Is this what you require?
Terry
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2017, 05:35:29 PM »

Terry-M that is exactly what I'm after. So the border is always the same as the paper size (or a specified size) and the image is then best fit due to it's dimensions.

I need a quick way of doing it. I usually run it through Photoshop but it just means I need to manually adjust each file so I hoped there would be an automatic way of processing it through Qimage.
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2017, 08:07:44 PM »

Hi Benny,
Great, we now know what you need  Cool
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I need a quick way of doing it. I usually run it through Photoshop but it just means I need to manually adjust each file so I hoped there would be an automatic way of processing it through Qimage.
Well there's not much QU can't do when it come to printing and it won't require creating another image every time like PS does.
You need to create and save a "custom layout" that can be used over and over again. It'll take a few minutes to do but save a great deal of time in the long run.
First, familiarize yourself with making custom layouts by watching Mike's Learning Video here.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/1TjdBbj-r2E
I created a layout based on my previous screen shot, saved it and then used it by from Print Properties- Custom-Layout. That'll be in the video.
The screen shots below show the preview with the template loaded and then 3 images added one after the other. Because freehand had to be used, I had to center each image in the page editor and I did resize one of then just to demonstrate it's flexible. It just took literally less that one minute to do those 3 images.

OK. Part 2. How I made this particular template. If you get stuck, let me know & I'll make a video.
1. Make a plain white image (in PS or you can use QU using print to file with a dummy template image)
2. Add  the border required to this white image and add to queue as Fit to Page with Crop on - or at any other size required.
3. Set the page to Freehand (little red F top right of preview)
4. Make sure the white image is not selected on the page and select the template thumb select the size, crop off with the zebra button below the preview. This is to make sure real images added to the layout retain their aspect ratio from any editing crop.
5. DRAG the template image to the preview. It may disappear under the white image - just open the page editor, select the white image, right click and "send to back". The select the template image (red hatched) and center it  or position to where needed.
6. Go back to the to Preview and it should look something like my first screen shot below.
7. Save as a Layout with a suitable name.
8. Use as instructed in the video:- from Print Properties- Custom-Layout.

Sorry it's a lengthy post, hope you follow ok. remember, once a custom layout is made it's quick to use for as many image in the queue as you like.
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2017, 12:22:33 PM »

Hi again Benny,
I have realised there is another (possibly easier) way to make the template using QU mats:- ...

1. Add a template "image" from the bottom of the thumbs list to the page at the size required with crop off.
2. No need to worry about setting freehand mode as that's done automatically when creating mats.
You can do the following from the preview but I find using the page editor is easier.
3. Open the page editor and select the template, right click and choose Photo Mats-Add mat.
4. Set the colour to white, set to Grow mat and set the border size to something less than the distance to the edge of the page, click the little cross. to make it equal on all sides.
5. Select the mat - (successive clicking selects the image then each mat in turn), right click, new size, fit to page. The template will change size but that can be corrected afterwards.
6. Right click again (mat selected) and Add matt.
7. Now click the shrink dot and add your thin coloured (black?) border mat, make equal on all sides.
8. Select the template, right click and select new size as required.
9. Save as a layout as in previous post.

Terry
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2017, 05:34:36 PM »

HUZZAH!!

Thanks Terry, though to be it took me quite a lot of attempts and I pretty much gave up until you put the new instructions on there. I think the whole program just takes a bit of getting used to. I was trying using matts at first but I couldn't get it quite right. This is perfect and now I have it I can easily make changes to the size if I need to or just save one of each for the standard paper sizes at least.

Thanks again Terry!
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2017, 06:01:10 PM »

I actually have one more question which is tangentially related. I can't seem to use two templates on a page. I have created layouts for A1, A2, A3, and A4 and I'm planning printing a test just to make sure that they all print accurate sizes but when I add them they are all added onto new pages and don't automatically adjust to save space.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2017, 06:42:08 PM »

Hi Benny,
Glad to hear you have the templates made.
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I can't seem to use two templates on a page ... but when I add them they are all added onto new pages and don't automatically adjust to save space.
It sounds as though your are using roll paper on a wide format printer. Which printer are you using?
I'm not sure I can answer that one, maybe Mike can answer it.
Terry
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