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« on: August 02, 2010, 09:57:23 PM »

hi mike are the icc profiles included with the ultimate version or still cost extra
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2010, 10:36:48 PM »

They're still extra.  I'm still considering offering those for free to Qimage Ultimate buyers who previously bought Studio.

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »

hi mike are the icc profiles included with the ultimate version or still cost extra

Camera icc profles are a good start.  HOWEVER, I recently bought COlor Checker Passport to isolate things further.  I am not recommending the $100 expense unless it really will improve your workflow.  I just want to point out that there are variables.

1.  No two cameras from the same brand/type are EXACTLY alike.  If they are, it is coincidental.  They are very close though.

2.  Profiles are different between different lenses on the same camera.

3.  Profiles are different between different lighting conditions.  Especially with multiple light sources.

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 04:42:23 PM »

hi mike are the icc profiles included with the ultimate version or still cost extra

Camera icc profles are a good start.  HOWEVER, I recently bought COlor Checker Passport to isolate things further.  I am not recommending the $100 expense unless it really will improve your workflow.  I just want to point out that there are variables.

1.  No two cameras from the same brand/type are EXACTLY alike.  If they are, it is coincidental.  They are very close though.

2.  Profiles are different between different lenses on the same camera.

3.  Profiles are different between different lighting conditions.  Especially with multiple light sources.



None of the above issues are significant enough to warrant multiple profiles in most cases, even most non-extreme lighting conditions.  The only camera I've ever encountered that truly needed different profiles for different lighting conditions are the Sigmas with the Foveon chip.  Trouble is, without a profile, all you are getting is a general matrix color shaper that is designed to do nothing more than make the image look "acceptable" enough that people won't complain.  Sometimes those do pretty well WRT accuracy, other times not so much.  With a profile, at least you are injecting some amount of reality/accuracy.

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 05:55:48 PM »


None of the above issues are significant enough to warrant multiple profiles in most cases, even most non-extreme lighting conditions.  The only camera I've ever encountered that truly needed different profiles for different lighting conditions are the Sigmas with the Foveon chip.  Trouble is, without a profile, all you are getting is a general matrix color shaper that is designed to do nothing more than make the image look "acceptable" enough that people won't complain.  Sometimes those do pretty well WRT accuracy, other times not so much.  With a profile, at least you are injecting some amount of reality/accuracy.

Mike

I agree with you.  Any profile is better than none at all--and should be used.

Customs, OTOH, are for people doing volumes of work and need to shorten their work flow.  Most people here do not need all that, though.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 05:10:19 PM »

They're still extra.  I'm still considering offering those for free to Qimage Ultimate buyers who previously bought Studio.

Mike

FWIW, as a Studio user, I'd probably buy Ultimate if I could get the D700 AND the D300 profile included in the price.....
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 06:38:33 PM »

Well, I already had one profile, and bought another for the other camera I use. Just think if you paid the $17 Mike could concentrate on adding some new features to Ultimate that would probably be well worth that $17 plus the money spent on Ultimate Smiley

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 03:40:44 PM »

Hmmmm, Adobe has new public betas out for LR and ACR/DNG.  They are now including profiles for lenses from the major camera companies, in addition to the camera profiles.  Someone must see the value on the professional side.

What I mean is (before getting attacked) either buy it, get it or make one. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 11:59:09 PM »

They're still extra.  I'm still considering offering those for free to Qimage Ultimate buyers who previously bought Studio.

Mike

Hi Mike

Any further thoughts on this "consideration" Huh  Cool
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 03:21:03 PM »

They're still extra.  I'm still considering offering those for free to Qimage Ultimate buyers who previously bought Studio.

Mike

Hi Mike

Any further thoughts on this "consideration" Huh  Cool

Yes.  The decision is: it's a GO!  See the link near the bottom of the mini-FAQ for details: http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/minifaq.htm

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Mike
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »

Can I get a refund on the 7D profile I just bought after buying Ultimate? I was also a long time Studio user.

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 04:04:06 PM »

Can I get a refund on the 7D profile I just bought after buying Ultimate? I was also a long time Studio user.

Andy

As stated on the new minifaq page, I cannot go back and refund prior purchases.  Having the full list of profiles will, however, allow you to always get the best that Qimage Ultimate has to offer with respect to raw processing whether you are working with your own raw photos or someone else's.  What I haven't officially announced though, but I've decided to do, is also offer future profiles for free as well for Studio + Ultimate users!  So if you've paid for Studio in the past and now Ultimate, you'll never have to pay for another Qimage raw camera profile!  Even if I develop a new one in the future and you happen to buy that camera model, I'll update your profile archive at no charge.

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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2010, 04:11:02 PM »

OK. That sounds good since I have been upgrading camera about every 2 - 3 years.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2010, 06:38:06 PM »

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Yes.  The decision is: it's a GO!  See the link near the bottom of the mini-FAQ for details: http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/minifaq.htm
Regards,
Mike
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Well, then, I'll have to buy it~ Thanks!
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