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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 08:07:18 AM »

Hello all.

I'm for retaining the queue tab with it's functionality.

I use it frequently for an overview of the parameters of images in the queue.

Less often for replacing certain images in a large multi-page multi-image per page print job. Incidently the thumbnail drag onto a queue item seems to be more responsive now.

Please keep it!

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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2017, 09:07:31 AM »

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I'm for retaining the queue tab with it's functionality.

I use it frequently for an overview of the parameters of images in the queue.

Less often for replacing certain images in a large multi-page multi-image per page print job. Incidently the thumbnail drag onto a queue item seems to be more responsive now.

Please keep it!

Peter


I'm with you, Peter.
I use it a lot as I mentioned to the other gentleman. I print on 13 x 19 paper most often with  sizes from 12 x 16 to various fit to pages.... and I use A3 for 11 x 14 prints. I like unobtrusive borders (I can't do metrics) of 0.03 inches in white, with 0.09 in black on the outside.
This set up usually looks pretty decent. So I use the Queue tab to drag and swap images while keeping all the previous settings.
I also use the queue tab for template printing, where I can swap images on the page within the template.

This topic really grew legs when Brad asked about a switch in preferences to have QU open with Queue Tab as default.
I think the only one who thought it useless was Mike C.  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2017, 07:26:52 PM »

I think the only one who thought it useless was Mike C.  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
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This isn't about whether to keep it or get rid of it.  I would keep it just because queue is where Qimage got it's name. Tongue

My point was that I can see no purpose at all for having the Queue tab be your starting tab when you open QU.  Seems like all the scenarios you are proposing (where you are using the queue) are finishing scenarios, not starting scenarios.  By the time you get to the queue, you should have really at least glanced at the Printers and Settings tab to confirm printer and media, and you've probably used the "Prints" tab to pick your print sizes by the time you get to the "Queue" tab.

P.S.  In the next version, I'll add a little popup with two selections ("Insert" or "Replace") when you drag a thumbnail and drop it onto an existing print in the live view.  Then Fred will lose his only reason to use the queue.  We'll see what he says then.  Wink

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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2017, 07:56:50 PM »

I think the only one who thought it useless was Mike C.  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
Fred

This isn't about whether to keep it or get rid of it.  I would keep it just because queue is where Qimage got it's name. Tongue

My point was that I can see no purpose at all for having the Queue tab be your starting tab when you open QU.  Seems like all the scenarios you are proposing (where you are using the queue) are finishing scenarios, not starting scenarios.  By the time you get to the queue, you should have really at least glanced at the Printers and Settings tab to confirm printer and media, and you've probably used the "Prints" tab to pick your print sizes by the time you get to the "Queue" tab.

I can go along with this perspective Mike. However, I'm just running jobs today with 2018.101 and I'm frustrated with the sizing of the right hand panel. The default width cuts-off the display of "Printer" and "Printer profile" which, in my case, are fairly long strings. Not to mention how it cuts off the display of Queue info. Sure, I can hover the mouse, but would it be possible/better to allow us to resize the width of the right hand panel relative to the width of preview area?

Thanks.

Cheers!

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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2017, 08:25:10 PM »

I think the only one who thought it useless was Mike C.  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
Fred

This isn't about whether to keep it or get rid of it.  I would keep it just because queue is where Qimage got it's name. Tongue

My point was that I can see no purpose at all for having the Queue tab be your starting tab when you open QU.  Seems like all the scenarios you are proposing (where you are using the queue) are finishing scenarios, not starting scenarios.  By the time you get to the queue, you should have really at least glanced at the Printers and Settings tab to confirm printer and media, and you've probably used the "Prints" tab to pick your print sizes by the time you get to the "Queue" tab.

P.S.  In the next version, I'll add a little popup with two selections ("Insert" or "Replace") when you drag a thumbnail and drop it onto an existing print in the live view.  Then Fred will lose his only reason to use the queue.  We'll see what he says then.  Wink

Mike

Ok, I dont use Printers and settings or the Prints tab for the majority of the printing that I do, as all my settings are saved as Printer settings which are recalled when needed.  It's not a big deal for me but just seemed that as the other 2 tabs could be set as start up options it would have been useful to have that option for the 3rd tab (Queue).

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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2017, 06:39:49 PM »

Not sure if this is a "bug" introduced in 2018.101 or I'm just losing my mind, but it seems QU refuses to rotate large prints to fit the media size if there is a non-zero border.

Specifically, I want a print to be 24" x 16" PLUS 0.50" borders = 25" x 17" including borders. I have set this up as a custom setting (see screenshot) on 24" wide roll stock with media size set to 24" x 25".

When I add the image, I expect QU to rotate the image to align the 25" side with the length of the media so the 17" will print across the roll. Instead, QU reduces the image size to 23" x 16" PLUS 0.50 borders = 24" x 17" so the 24" dimension prints across the roll (see screenshot).

I tried all the usual tricks to force QU to get print oriented correctly, e.g. click a rotate arrow, click (B), then (B+), change the print placement options, etc. Eventually, I found a work-around by removing the border, getting the correct orientation, then adding the border.

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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2017, 05:36:48 PM »

Minor issue in the job log.

If you have adjusted the column widths from the default (I like to slide the File Date, Printed To, Prts and Pgs as far to the right as possible), and then you Rename or Delete a job, the program resets the column widths back to the default.
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2017, 11:37:38 AM »

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When I add the image, I expect QU to rotate the image to align the 25" side with the length of the media so the 17" will print across the roll. Instead, QU reduces the image size to 23" x 16" PLUS 0.50 borders = 24" x 17" so the 24" dimension prints across the roll (see screenshot).
Hi Brad,
I have been trying to emulate what you are trying.
Please see screen snap 097 attached.
My first dilemma is the printable area the driver reports to Qimage Ultimate.
With a user defined page at 24" x 25" I get a printable area as shown (23.606 x 24.606)
Therefore, off the top, can't put a 25" print including borders into either side. I guess something tries to make it fit, either the driver or QU.
On the other hand, I set the user page size (just for an experiment) to 24.02 x 40", and you can do somersaults with the print.
The next screen snap shows a 17 x 25 with borders on a 40" long page.. Plenty of room

** Brad is there another way to create a user defined page size other than opening Devices and Printers, right click on the driver, open printer preferences, and locate user defined, and then set it and save it there?
I would like to try 24.02 x 26" page instead of 24" next as that should give me enough printable area.
Next question: Why do you show a printable area in your screen snap of 24 x 25?
Just trying to help
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2017, 04:56:02 PM »

Hi, Fred. The Z3200 driver has a "margin" feature that reports 0" printing margins to QU and therefore QU can use the full specified sheet size. That's the mode I've been using for years on paper prints with white borders. And QU has (historically) always rotated the prints into correct position. I've just noticed with the latest release this was no longer happening.

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2017, 05:40:17 PM »

** Brad is there another way to create a user defined page size other than opening Devices and Printers, right click on the driver, open printer preferences, and locate user defined, and then set it and save it there?
I would like to try 24.02 x 26" page instead of 24" next as that should give me enough printable area.
Next question: Why do you show a printable area in your screen snap of 24 x 25?
Just trying to help
Fred

Actually Fred, I create all my forms (i.e. Media sizes) in the Windows "Print Server Properties" tool, "Forms" tab.

C:\Windows\System32\printui.exe /s /t0

These form sizes are saved in the Windows registry. QU reads them and populates the "Media size" drop down on the "Printers and Settings" tab. I don't use the printer driver to create user defined forms.

Then, in the Z3200 Printer Driver, I ensure that the "Margins/Layout" option is set to "Clip contents by margins". That means the driver will tell QU the printing margin is 0", even though the printing margin will actually clip the image (i.e. it is not borderless). This is OK because my paper prints always have white borders (in B+ mode) and my canvas prints are printed on roll widths that ensure I have a minimum of 1/2" white space all around ("slop" area for when I apply the coating).

The net effect is QU displays a printable area ("page size") the same size as the selected Media size with no printer margin deducted. I don't know if other printers have the same capability, but perhaps using the borderless setting would emulate the same situation as far as image placement and rotation is concerned.

I print on roll stock and the Media size determines where the printer will cut off the prints.

Cheers!

Brad
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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2017, 07:27:20 PM »

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The net effect is QU displays a printable area ("page size") the same size as the selected Media size with no printer margin deducted. I don't know if other printers have the same capability, but perhaps using the borderless setting would emulate the same situation as far as image placement and rotation is concerned.

Thanks Brad for all the information.
I keep a bunch of various drivers installed so I can try to simulate problems and try to help.
The Z3200  gives me fits, to be honest about it. Nothing  about it seems to have the same logic as Epson and Canon, and even some less extensive  HP models I have had.
So I really appreciate your sharing with me.
Thanks, Fred
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« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2017, 10:55:23 PM »

I keep a bunch of various drivers installed so I can try to simulate problems and try to help.
The Z3200  gives me fits, to be honest about it. Nothing  about it seems to have the same logic as Epson and Canon, and even some less extensive  HP models I have had.
So I really appreciate your sharing with me.
Thanks, Fred

I know what you mean. The main bug that bites me is the HP driver frequently forgets the paper size. So if I must open the driver to check a setting, it frequently resets the paper size to some bizarre value and then sends that back to QU, thereby upsetting my job parameters. Argh. To make matters worse, the HP driver doesn't sort its paper size list, which would make it a lot easier to "remind" the driver what size I really want.

The net of all this is I try to stay out of the HP driver as much as possible. Which is why I like to recall previous print jobs from the QU log. Which would be a perfect situation except for the "Control with no parent" problem that I  often have with QU (and no one else seems to have it). Oh well.

Cheers!

Brad
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