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Author Topic: Some random questions about Qimage users and usage  (Read 52845 times)
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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2009, 09:11:24 PM »

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Add  "creative" selective sharpening to specific area of photo ( that would require studio version I think),
None of the Qimage versions do "selective" sharpening. However the USM filter with Equalisation is excellent.

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I dont really print much, I'm going to try to change that and print something
There's nothing that beats having a print in your hand, something tangible and completely different from a screen view in terms of satisfaction.
Get those nozzles flowing!   Cool
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2009, 09:21:59 PM »

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USM filter with Equalisation is excellent.

What sharpening settings do you use?

I'm embarrassed to say that I probably use 1/4 of Qimage's possibilities. When I look at the sharpening options, I think, "I dunno--which ones should I use?"

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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2009, 09:35:01 PM »

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harpen by USM once at the beginning to undue the softness created by the camera's anti aliasing filter.

This is automatically compensated for in the RAW options settings

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When I look at the sharpening options, I think, "I dunno--which ones should I use?"
That's a tough one. I'll try cuz Terry is likely ready for sleep.
Raw or JPG?
Is the lens soft? Each shot calls for its own amount of USM.
In Raw mode, QSE applies a certain amount of USM as a default. If you set that correctly in EDIT RAW Preferences, you rarely will need any more.
In JPG mode it depends on what your camera does when it saves creates the JPG.

So for fun!     You will have to do trial and error.
In Raw mode, try setting USM to 2/175 with a 75% Equalizer.
In JPG mode in the batch filter, try 1/ 100   then 2/150... and last try 3/350 with 90% Equalizer.
You have to play with the settings and after a while your eye will know.
As Terry said, one print is worth a 1000 words. Make a print... scrutinize.... reset... and make another print.
After 5 sheets of paper, you will be offering advice. :-))

Fred

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« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2009, 09:41:52 PM »

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I'll try cuz Terry is likely ready for sleep
Yawn  Roll Eyes
But I totally agree with Fred and have nothing to add  Wink
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« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2009, 09:43:56 PM »

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After 5 sheets of paper, you will be offering advice. :-))

Ummm, I have already probably printed well over 200 sheets, and have quite liked my results! I just haven't done much with sharpening in Qimage (or, apparently, with many of Qimage's other tricks)--at least so far.

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« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2009, 09:47:11 PM »

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Yawn  Roll Eyes

I never know if he is sleepy because in his time zone in the UK it's almost 11:00 Pm or because he is getting old!  Shocked :-\
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2009, 09:53:43 PM »

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After 5 sheets of paper, you will be offering advice. :-))

Ummm, I have already probably printed well over 200 sheets, and have quite liked my results! I just haven't done much with sharpening in Qimage (or, apparently, with many of Qimage's other tricks)--at least so far.

Liz

Liz, that's part of the "point"
Just because a tool is available, does not necessarily mean you must use it.
I have tried to impart that trial and error is the key.... but adding experience to know what you see on screen is what will print, makes the process much easier.
I have super sharp lens and I have one that is soft when wide open, and one that is soft (70-200 mm) except for 100-150mm. You can see that there can be be no single formula.

Just for fun, if you wanted to send one RAW image to me via email, and see if we agree on the USM needed, can do.

Fred
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« Reply #37 on: July 24, 2009, 01:55:44 AM »

OK, thanks, Fred--check your email!

Liz
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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2009, 08:27:47 AM »

Thanks Ernst
Next time I replace a print that has been hanging for years, I will have a closer look.
They were dye ink prints from an Epson 1280.
So far the pigment prints from my R1800 printed in 2007, still pert and perky.
The frames are cheapo s, and the "glass" is really not glass, but acrylic. I would have to check, but it is likely that UV passes through that stuff?Huh?
As to Ozone, not much of that in the house, but plenty of Methane.
Fred  Grin Embarrassed

Looking in Wikipedia, I found this:
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In short, your initial assumptions are flawed. Every different chemical compound will allow light of some wavelengths to pass through, and will absorb some other wavelengths. In the case of glass and many acrylic polymers, they both appear to be clear because most of the light in the visible spectrum passes through. It is not generally true that glass allows infrared light to pass through, nor is it generally true that acrylic polymers will allow ultraviolet light to pass through. The infrared light absorbed by both acrylic and glass heats up the material by causing bending, stretching, and twisting of mmolecular bonds. The ultraviolet light absorbed by these materials generally causes ionization.

Really wonder if that last part is a reply to my message but even where UV is cut out at 350Nm with normal window glass there still is enough visible light getting through to fade weak components of a print. There are estimations that UV fading isn't contributing more than 15% of the total light fading indoors. The weak components include OBAs but in your case the cyan ink too as explained below. The use of OBA loaded papers is a risk if long term preservation is a goal. The effect of OBA in frames behind more or less UV cutting glass is limited too.

Your 1280 used Epson dyes that were originally claimed to be lightfast by Wilhelm and Epson but shortly after the introduction users complained about very fast cyan ink fading. Especially in places near shores with high Ozone concentrations. Office environments with laser printers have higher Ozone levels too. Epson compensated the US customers that complained after class action threaths. Epson adapted the US advertsing and product labelling accordingly. Wilhelm admitted that gas fading wasn't properly tested at that time. That case was called the Orange Plague and happened about 9 years ago. You will find reports on the web. The Colorfast paper though recommended for that dye ink type wasn't that archival either and certainly didn't stop the cyan fading.  Framing does help to reduce gas fading but one has to be very careful in selecting the materials used for mounting etc. so no gas is evaporated from tape and glues.

Whether Methane is healthy in relation to prints and humans is another question :-)


met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst Dinkla

Try: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/

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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2009, 08:38:23 AM »

Here is a paper from the german company Image Engineering about ozone and fading:
http://www.image-engineering.de/images/pdf/testreports/bildstabilitaet_artikel_en.pdf
http://www.image-engineering.de/images/pdf/whitepaper/whitepaper_printertest2.0_engl.pdf
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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2009, 10:11:30 AM »




Thanks Ernst.
Good information for me. I learn all the time, and I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge.
At the time I printed and hung those 1280 prints, I was laughingly saying that I would turn yellow before the prints did.
Turned out close to a tie. !! :-)
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2009, 01:04:26 PM »


Hope I'm not to late to answer the questions

Question One: Who uses Qimage, and how?
I think I have the correct answer .. everyone that's on Qimage Forum
Do I get 5 points? Grin
I use Qimage because it does such a great job. I am no professional, just a guy with a camera.
Yes, Qimage can do more than I'll every know.

Question Two How many users (or at least purchasers) are there?
Can't answer this one. So I guess I just lost my 5 points Cry

How do you pronounce it, anyway?
Letter "Q"  Word "Image" 

The reason I bought Qimage was to have a printing program just for printing. Not knowing it was going to be such a great program to print any type of layout I would every want or need.

Now that there is this great forum I can see what you all can do with Qimage.

Hopefully more average users won't be afraid to post questions or a reply because there is a great group of people here willing to help.
Sure I can read the postings by not being Logged In. But some may not know you can't see some of picture you post unless you Login.

Enjoy learning for you all
Ya Me

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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2009, 02:28:33 PM »

Hey, Fred-
When you start pre-quoting yourself inside your answer, welllllllllll, TOO MUCH METHANE!  Open the window and leave the house immediately!!
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2009, 09:22:57 PM »

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TOO MUCH METHANE!  Open the window and leave the house immediately!!

Seth,
Oh I am so happy. UPS just dropped off my package. It's a SETH filter. B&H showed back ordered for a long time as the demand was so high!  

 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley

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