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Title: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Ernest D-Alford on September 13, 2009, 11:59:30 AM
I would find the software more suited to my needs if I could

(a) select files from the flash card to copy/move, etc.
(b) have the option for duplicates not to be copied/moved etc.

(I don't think this is possible at present with Flashpipe).

As far as (a) is concerned, even the ability to select by file date or file format alone would be welcome, though display of thumbnails would be useful too.

By the way, I am particularly impressed with the speed of the transfer from the flash card.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 13, 2009, 12:42:42 PM
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(b) have the option for duplicates not to be copied/moved etc.
Curious to know how you get duplicates on a flash card?
Terry


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: admin on September 13, 2009, 04:11:39 PM
Sounds like you want to do selective/manual copying.  That's something more suited for Windows Explorer.  FlashPipe is for automated transfers.

Also, FlashPipe already has the capability to move just data from certain folders on the flash card.  If you click in the drive/folder grid at the top, you can turn on/off files from certain folders.  For example, if you see a folder named "Canon283" it shows 23 photos and 3 videos that you know you don't want to copy, just click on the 23 and the 3 in the grid.  They will change to [23] and [3] indicating that those files will not be copied.  Undocumented feature (because I didn't think anyone would want to use it) but it's there.  If you just wanted to copy the 23 photos and leave the 3 videos in that folder, just click on the 3 making it a [3] and it'll leave those alone.

Mike


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Ernest D-Alford on September 14, 2009, 12:47:38 AM
Terry: I was not speaking of duplicates on the flash card but of files that had on an earlier occasion been copied from the flash card to the currently selected copy/move-to folder.

Mike:  Since FlashPipe does identify duplicates (and then gives the new copy a distinguishing file name), I thought it wouldn't  be too difficult to have it skip copying/moving those particular files,  that is, if an option to do so is made available, say, on the Settings page.

E.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 14, 2009, 11:54:17 AM
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files that had on an earlier occasion been copied from the flash card to the currently selected copy/move-to folder.

I agree with that above.
Every time I want to match or copy the contents of a folder on my C:\ drive to a copy I keep on a different drive F:\, and I add a few images to the C drive folder, my copying to the F:\ drive folder makes duplicates and triplicates of the existing images.

PITA   :(
Fred


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: BrianPrice on September 14, 2009, 12:12:04 PM
Mike

I have the same problem. I think a possible solution would be an Overwrite/Skip/Re-number choice in a dialogue box.

Brian


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: admin on September 14, 2009, 03:28:57 PM
I don't see this as a problem but a necessary feature!  Most people won't be using FlashPipe as a copy program but to download data off flash cards, in which case you'll really never have duplicates.  Right now, FlashPipe can never lose data.  As soon as you put in a feature that allows people to "skip" files, people will start losing data.  They'll think all the data was moved off their flash card when it really wasn't, and the only way to guarantee that no data is lost is to open both the source and target files and do a bitwise compare to make sure the files are truly identical.  And that will be quite slow.

Mike


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 14, 2009, 04:53:55 PM
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Every time I want to match or copy the contents of a folder on my C:\ drive to a copy I keep on a different drive F:\, and I add a few images to the C drive folder, my copying to the F:\ drive folder makes duplicates and triplicates of the existing images.
One solution to this is to use MS SyncToy (free)
http://www.microsoft.com/prophoto/downloads/synctoybeta.aspx
Terry.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Ernest D-Alford on September 14, 2009, 05:13:16 PM
Mike:

So you want to protect us from ourselves!  A more thoroughgoing way to do that would be to remove the "Move" option and leave us to erase what we want from the flash card independently of FlashPipe.  (Of course, I am not recommending that!)

If you were to provide the overwrite/skip/renumber option (recommended by Brian Price) but only for the "Copy" option, there should be no worry about our mistakenly thinking that all the data have been removed from the card when in fact they were not.  (However, I would prefer that option for "Move" also, and take responsibility for my overwrite/skip decisions).

E.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 14, 2009, 09:08:46 PM
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So you want to protect us from ourselves!
... and so he did.
You download the latest Flashpipe, and you will have what you wanted.  (106)
I am the biggest KLUTZ there is with a lot of things, and if I can't mess it up, consider yourself safe from a falling sky, a tsunami, or a Tiramasu.  ;D

I have been uploading and downloading and side loading and diagonal loading. Not a miss in the whole shebang!

Enjoy.
Fred



Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Ernest D-Alford on September 14, 2009, 10:08:19 PM
The new version (106) skips duplicates as requested.  Many thanks, Mike!

Ernest D-A


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 08:37:26 AM
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The new version (106) skips duplicates as requested.  Many thanks, Mike!
I second that.
When I now use FlashPipe to update a folder of raw files on a back-up hard drive, and new or revised Qimage SE refinements have been made, only the "qrs" adjustment files are copied. If a raw image has been Refined for a second time, the new "qrs" file gets copied as (0001). This demonstrates that a "duplicate" has to be identical in every way, file name and bytes.
Terry.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 15, 2009, 09:28:42 AM
Terry, Ernest,
This feature makes Flashpipe a WOW! program for me.
As I believe I mentioned in some earlier post, I try to keep duplicated work in three places: On my everyday working C: drive using XP, my F:\ drive which is the Vista drive and last, my external drive.
Regardless if I am copying images from the card, I can place them in three locations, or copying from the XP drive where I have made all my enhancements, in a Flash, I have copied exactly the same work to three locations.

Fred


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 10:00:50 AM
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Regardless if I am copying images from the card, I can place them in three locations, or copying from the XP drive where I have made all my enhancements, in a Flash, I have copied exactly the same work to three locations.
This is what I have started to do but for 2 locations.
When copying from hard drive to hard drive to update from the working HD, the settings required are different from those used for Flash card to hard drives; eg. no re-naming required, no sub-folder required.
I would be nice if I could save/recall the settings for the different situations. What do you think, is it feasible?
Terry.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 15, 2009, 11:10:09 AM
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I would be nice if I could save/recall the settings for the different situations. What do you think, is it feasible?
Not sure if it is needed considering the facility of Flashpipe.
You can easily make more rows with the TO locations that you need, and Flashpipe remembers it all even when you close, and reopen tomorrow.
Just shut the unneeded rows to OFF when not needed and with a click, turn them back on to 'live'.

Fred


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 11:29:59 AM
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You can easily make more rows with the TO locations that you need
Yes, I have that already.
It's not so much the TO locations but the SOURCE locations.
When the SOURCE is a flash card, I use different Edit/Settings for when the SOURCE is a folder on a hard drive. So the ability to quickly recall the appropriate settings would be good.
Terry.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 15, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
Terry,
See snap for my SETTINGS from yesterday. I wanted a folder called First walk with a date, and you can see where I ticked the ADD date to the To Subfolder.
That gives me 2009-09-14 First Walk. Just what I wanted.
Let's assume for the sake of example, that today I go to the Siesta beach
and shoot some.
I would change that box in settings (Place Raw Photos) to Siesta Beach and
FP adds the date. I get 2009-09-15-Siesta Beach.
Furthermore, let's say that the following day I again go to Siesta beach.
FP will keep Siesta Beach but change the date in the folder name.
So it is all sorted for me.

Please explain why you need to reset the FROM settings for your mem cards.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 12:43:15 PM
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Please explain why you need to reset the FROM settings for your mem cards.
It's not FROM settings for Flash cards as such but the settings need to be different depending on whether FROM (=Source) is a Flash or a Hard Drive The latter being an update to a back-up from the working C-drive to the back-up P-Drive. When HD to HD, the folders are already in place and the re-naming is done when first copied from the Flash card. That first copy would have been to both C and P drives.
So no new folders have to be created nor images re-named. That means different settings - dependent on Source.
Hope that is clearer   :D
Terry.


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 15, 2009, 12:57:24 PM
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whether FROM (=Source) is a Flash or a Hard Drive The latter being an update to a

Terry,
With no mem card inserted in the reader, Flashpipe will revert to the last setting for HD as the source.
No matter what you are doing, you will have to click on Source, and select the current folder on your main working drive.
That has to change names every time you go out to shoot and come back with a day's work at a named location.

If I am working on images in the 2009-09-15 folder and I want to copy OTHER to teh back up drives, I have to click Source and select tha folder.
perhaps two days from now I went to Siesta Beach again, and work on those images, I still have to click Source and select 2009-09-16-Siesta beach as my new source.

After lunch, take a ride over to my house so I can show you.  ;)
Fred


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 01:06:50 PM
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No matter what you are doing, you will have to click on Source, and select the current folder on your main working drive.
Yes, that I understand but it is the SETTINGS options that I want to be different for a HD Source than for a Flash card Source.
In your settings (attachmen in earlier reply, you are not re-naming or creating a new sub folder - I am, hence differet settings required depending on Source type.

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After lunch, take a ride over to my house so I can show you
Sorry, the wife is using the Tardis this afternoon  ;D
Terry.



Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Fred A on September 15, 2009, 01:11:29 PM
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Sorry, the wife is using the Tardis this afternoon  Grin
Terry.

You know I am a long time lover of Dr. Who, so I know what a Tardis can do.   ;D


Title: Re: Select items for action; exclude duplicates
Post by: Terry-M on September 15, 2009, 02:33:42 PM
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You know I am a long time lover of Dr. Who, so I know what a Tardis can do
The Star Trek Transporter was in for a service too  :(

Ok, I can see that what you do works with non-photo files (qrs etc.) but it does not entirely work with photo files like any jpegs created for e-mail. I need to switch off re-naming in Settings otherwise I get double renaming.
I can see I don't need to alter the tick in the Settings subfolder for raw (they are not raw) but I will still have to remember to un-tick the re-name option.
No worse than re-calling a bunch of settings therefore re-call not required,  only in my head!  :-[

Thanks for your patience on this. FP is so versatile, it needs a bit of effort to work out the best way of doing things to suit your own folder structure and naming methods.
However, it's is easy to use and set up for flash cards. I just had to decide the best way to use it for Hard Drive transfers.
Terry.