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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 14, 2010, 04:07:11 PM
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Now, what Terry was trying to point out: with judicious use of the slider (EQ%) you can add, lessen, or even out the amount of sharpening to various tones. Yep, that's what I didn't understand previously, which is why I initially couldn't figure out how Terry was able to avoid sharpening the entire background in his photo. Got it now. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 14, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
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The grayed out Current Image Only, leaving APPLY to all as the running default is the way it has always been based on this command being a batch command; and meant to convert images to make a different format, and be able to tweak something rapidly, perhaps as I do sometimes, add a little more strength to the Unsharp mask setting, make my jpg, then do it again reducing the strength, and making a second JPG.
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Also, if you look carefully, when that Quick edit screen ADD TO filter, appears, many items that require actually seeing the image, are grayed or non operational. Like Levels, Curves and a few more.
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That clears it up, Fred, thank you. I could of course see the N/A functions in the quick edit screen. But I thought something was wrong because clicking on an operational item like "Sharpen" didn't immediately pop up the enlarged view you get in the full editor screen. Similarly, nothing happened when I clicked the TTS eyedropper, leading me to wonder if anything was operational in the quick edit screen. That'll teach me to experiment late at night! Thanks again, you've been both helpful and patient. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 13, 2010, 11:57:57 PM
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add to the existing filter, or replace it. Oh, OK that's the one that pops up when you CONVERT Images. See no brain freeze, or cramp. See snap Fred This is almost certainly what I was thinking of Fred, thank you. I don't convert images that often, which is probably why I remembered getting the message only occasionally. However, at the top of the dialog box (like the one you've posted), I can't select "Apply the filter to the current image only" button, even if I just have one image in the queue. It's grayed out, just as in your screen snap. Also, clicking the "Add to/replace existing filters" button opens the box with the sharpening & USM tools, but applying them doesn't open the image in an editing window. I must be missing a point here somewhere. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 13, 2010, 06:49:11 PM
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When using TTS, have you always been able to achieve what you want in one step? Or, to put it another way, how would you apply different levels of TTS to two (or more) different areas of the photo? On the whole I have been able to achieve what I want in one step of TTS. To some extent you can apply different levels of TTS to different areas using the slider. A simple example would be say a flower with green leaves. Select the green for exclusion so the main sharpening would be on the flower colour but reducing the slider to say 90% would add a little usm to the leaves. Using a flower example again, I have had a dilemma when say, I want to sharpen the mauve flower and the yellow stamens but not the leaves. In practice it's not been a serious problem because by trying different selections to sharpen or exclude and using the slider have got a good result. Sometimes a 2-stage TTS would seem to be useful but life would get more complicated.  Have you a sample image as you described? For example, a photo's two subjects--both of which you wish to sharpen using TTS--are radically different in tone. The background--which you wish to leave alone--is so variable in tone that it cannot be "selected" overall. If you have, maybe I and Fred could have a go and see what we could do with the current TTS. Sometimes it may be best to not use TTS but the plain vanilla USM. Before the ability to soften and sharpen in one stage was introduced I did attempt a 2-stage process by making a new image with the 1st stage applied and applying the second stage on the new image. Terry Okay, thanks again. I think that I just have to experiment a bit more with the slider. I don't have any particular "problem" image at hand--other than (I thought) the one you posted above. When you said that you had chosen "Ex Tone" and selected the dark green background, I initially couldn't see why the brownish rocks DIDN'T get sharpened. Your explanation of how you used the slider cleared that up. I also re-read this thread, where the subject of multiple or "additive" TTS also came up: http://ddisoftware.com/tech/qimage-ultimate/v2010-108-issuescomments-907/Here's the strange thing: in a previous version of Qimage (and I've used them all), after adding some slight modification to a previously-edited photo, I seem to remember getting a pop-up telling me that a filter had already been applied to this photo, and asking me if I wanted to add to that filter, or replace it. It happened more than once, but it's been a year or more, and I no longer remember the specifics. Anyone else remember this? |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 13, 2010, 04:20:35 PM
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So I reprocessed selecting a different grid square, the one that had the bright area.
Selecting this exposure value improved the result dramatically.
It did, indeed. Great examples, Fred, and thanks for making them so easy to compare. Another "case study" for the Qimage manual! Seriously, wouldn't that be a great project? Review the forums for examples like these and collect them for easy reference? Either that, or keep updating the "Qimage challenges" thread with links to examples like these. I've managed to learn my way around the Qimage manual fairly well, but there's nothing like "real world" examples like these to open your eyes to the capabilities of this program. Sometimes I can't believe that these forums are free. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 13, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
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The "green" tone selected was a sort of muddy green and the slider was set at 90% to enable some of the more "brown" tones to be selected for sharpening exclusion.
You will also see that shadow noise is ticked to eliminate any graininess that was there in the out-of-focus areas. This feature has to be used with care so as not to soften detail on the subject. However I find that a notch up on the radius or an increase in USM percentage can sometimes compensate for this.
I hope that helps, there are no hard & fast rules with this as every image is different
VERY helpful, Terry, thank you. But here's another question which is related to my first one. When using TTS, have you always been able to achieve what you want in one step? Or, to put it another way, how would you apply different levels of TTS to two (or more) different areas of the photo? It seems to me that this could be necessary for some photos. For example, a photo's two subjects--both of which you wish to sharpen using TTS--are radically different in tone. The background--which you wish to leave alone--is so variable in tone that it cannot be "selected" overall. I assume that one would apply "stage 1" TTS, click "done," and then elect "create new" rather than "associate" in the dialog--and then open the new image and apply "stage 2" TTS. Or am I overlooking something and/or making this too complicated? In any case, the photos you've posted here and in other threads and the information you've shared constitute "case studies" which should be spliced into the Qimage manual. Thanks again. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: QU & TTS Helps a Grey Heron to Overcome a Cheetah
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on: October 13, 2010, 12:36:33 AM
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The good feather definition was achieved with TTS 2-300-90%, Ex Tone with the dark green background selected. This ensured both the heron and ducks were sharpened without inducing graininess in the background.
But doesn't this mean that the NON dark green tones in the background (specifically the rocks; also the rocks in the foreground) DID have sharpening applied? If so, I can't see any graininess in them. Help me out here, Terry. Still feeling my way with TTS. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: Update emails
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on: October 08, 2010, 05:48:52 PM
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Mine arrive by the time I leave the Qimage web page and go to my e-mail inbox at yahoo.com.
Exactly the same here (but not using Yahoo). Less than 30 sec. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: Raw refine portrait
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on: October 05, 2010, 09:04:44 PM
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Thanks for the screen shots. I think I can tweak that out in the next version.
Mike
OK, should be fixed in v2010.124.
Regards,
Mike
From 11:26 a.m. to 4:54 p.m. That's a new record for a fix, isn't it? Best customer service on the planet. |
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Mike's Software / Qimage Ultimate / Re: Odd colors
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on: October 01, 2010, 07:24:19 PM
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Now all I need to do is to figure out some of the some of the other aspects of the Qimage interface and I think I will become a customer.
The results you'll get will be well worth it, Milt. Continue to browse these forums and you'll find plenty of testimonials from satisfied users. And for some good examples, look up the "Qimage Challenges" thread. Join the club! |
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