Ok, I see. I thought it was some sort of preferred format. Didn’t occur to me that it was part of the QUI automatic stuff.

Will start again tomorrow.

Thax,
Bob

Next question:  I wanted to name my setups in the following format:  {{printer name}}{{paper manufacturer}}{{paper name}}

But it seems that when I simply open one of these, a new setup is automatically created using the default format (i.e. without the paper manufacturer name.)

I'm a bit confused here.

Bob

Makes sense.  I'll start on that today.

Thx

I just have the one printer but in trying many papers, I have dozens of profiles.

I guess per your suggestion, the best thing to do would be to name the profiles -exactly- the same as the manufacturer does and then scroll down alphabetically as needed.

Thx

I've been experimenting with a number of papers lately and I now have a lot of profiles in my system.  Hunting for one of those in QI's profile browser is a non-positive process. I have to do a lot of scrolling, perhaps some column sorting, etc.

How about a search bar where I can type in a phrase and the browser will isolate those profiles containing that phrase?

I would like this feature in order to keep track of an image's variants as I edit and print them.

Got it.  Thanks.

Well, that certainly makes sense. 

Per your suggestion, I will recalibrate tonight when it's dark and then concentrate strictly on the skin tones.  They were pretty consistently showing somewhat redder on the screen than on the prints.

The monitor theoretically has native modes for sRGB, AdobeRGB, 6500K, sRGB 50, DCI-P3 D63, etc.  I have been leaving it on 6500K since I was under the impression that's what the monitor profile was generated with.  I will try some of the others.

I also ended up with an old SpyderPrint kit and will experiment with doing my own paper profile as well.  (Retired, have lots of time!)

Note that QIU did not show out of gamut warnings on the sweatshirt in soft proof mode.

Will report back sometime tomorrow.

Thanks!

Well, I certainly appreciate your help here.  I'm pretty well mystified and will continue to experiment.

It's interesting that all of your surfaces show the same saturated blue.  Only my print does.  That sort of indicates it's the monitor that's at issue here since we agree on the print.  I have a couple of other monitors in the house that I'll try calibrating and see what they produce.

I won't take any more of your time on this and thanks again for your inputs.

Bob

Hmmm. On my monitor, I cannot match the saturation of the sweatshirt at all. I’ve tried with simple blue gain adjustments, but I guess I’ll go into the video card and work with its blue gamma next.

On my monitor the facial tones are fairly smooth, but on my prints they lack that smooth gradation. They are harsh. How do the skin tones look on your prints?

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Yes to all your points here.  That's why I'm so terribly confused with my results.

As an FYI, the image that I'm dealing with is a headshot against a black background that occupies well over half the image.  Oher than the skin tones of the face, there's an evenly colored blue sweatshirt and an evenly colored green shirt collar in the image.  The skin tones look 'harsh', as though the clarity slider was pushed up, the green of the shirt looks pretty accurate, and the blue sweatshirt is a significantly deeper (saturated?) shade than what shows on the screen.

If it's not too much of a problem, I'd still like to send you the TIFF that I'm working with to see if you can or can't repro the issue on your end.

Thx

I loaded a RAW directly into QIU and printed it with no manipulation.  (Same monitor ICC as for matching your test image.)  Same results:  the print is very much different than QIU's soft proof.

Again, the print looks like I pushed up the clarity slider.

How can I send you the RAW?  It's 26mb zipped.  If you don't have a direct upload site, I can use one of the large file services.  If so, what email?

I used your test image and adjusted the monitor profile to the point where I think they're a very good match.  Those settings also work for Datacolor's test image.  (The Spyder folks wouldn't be happy!)

However, when it's my own images, the results just don't match up.  My prints look as though the Clarity slider has been ramped up.  The images are 'harsh'.  The skin tones are bluer and the blue clothing is more saturated.

I'm looking at the soft proof mode in both Capture One and QIU using the same manufacturer ICC profile.  For your test image and Datacolor's test image, the results are pretty close.  But, again, looking at my own image, there is a noticeable difference between the two apps.  (I'm exporting from C1 to QIU as a 16-bit TIFF file with the Adobe RGB (1998) profile embedded in the image.)

So, you don’t adjust the colors of the monitor profile?  Just the brightness?

My problem is with the colors. Brightness I’m OK on.

Thanks