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1  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 21, 2020, 07:13:14 PM
That's it, Mike!
We can consider this issue as closed.

Thank you very much for your help!
2  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 21, 2020, 04:33:44 PM
Mike!!! Excellent!!!  Smiley We are almost there.

Now I get what I need, but with one exception. In the case that I want to take advantage of the excellent upscaling capabilities of Qimage, the Fusion interpolation algorithm, and save a TIFF file, then in the Enhancement/Filter Application panel, the Output folder for the Create new image option should be set to the location where the original file was opened from.
Right now the Output folder is retaining the last location I've manually set in the last session when this option was used. Is there a setting to resolve this one as well?

3  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 21, 2020, 02:31:06 PM
I think that somehow, I failed to get across my message.

I'm not using the Qimage "export" folders at all. In my workflow approach, I don't want to go to this folder. These don't exist for me, and based on my workflow, I should never have any use for them. Actually, I think that the "export" folders should be more of behind the scene of Qimage, and not exposed to end users, but I might be wrong as I don't know where these requirements came to you from.

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The location of the image(s) you are opening is shown immediately above the thumbnails.
The image attached shows that if I'm opening a file from a given location, using "open with" or through drag-and-drop, the source folder is not showing up above the thumbnails.

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Qimage cannot access the files from their original location because they are likely open in another program: this is why it must create Export subfolders!
True, this might happen when the print is invoked from Photoshop, and I understand your reason for creating a copy behind the scene, but not everybody is working out of Photoshop, as I already made the point in the previous message that I've posted. I'm sending the file to Qimage from sources that are not locking the file for editing.

I'm repeating again, for me the original file location is still not the "Export" folder; the associative file should be saved in the original file location, so when I am opening it again, I should not have to crawl through the cryptic (cryptic because under the Export folder is just a bunch a date/time folder names) in order to find its associative file.

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So just familiarize yourself with the scenarios where you are exporting vs opening in Qimage and everything will make sense.
No Mike... I don't want to familiarize myself with "Export" folder-thing... Again, from my standpoint, it should not be even be exposed to the end user...



4  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 21, 2020, 11:52:18 AM
I also think that in the situation when the file is open in Qimage using "open with" or through drag-and-drop, the "Output folder" for "Create New Images" in the Enhancement/Filter Application panel should also be set to the folder where the file was originated from.
5  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 21, 2020, 10:26:17 AM
Hi Mike,

Every software is built upon relevant use cases. I totally agree that the current Qimage implementation satisfies real needs of many people that are your, probably, "targeted market segment", people that are organizing event albums, professional photographers, or people that are selling their work through print labs.


However, I also suggest that Qimage should/could be targeted to amateur photographers, which I am one of.
Many of these photo amateurs are organizing their photos using folders, or a wide range of pseudo-DAMs (e.g. XnView, FastStone, Luminar, Lightroom, just to name a few) or real DAMs (such as iMatch, Photo Supreme). One common thing about these all these tools is that they are allowing "open with" from within their own environment for one or more photos that are selected.

Personally, I'm using iMatch, XnView, FastStone, and even the regular OS browser to open images for a given purpose, including for printing.

Qimage allows currently opening a file using "open with". If this is an unintended scenario for Qimage, a defect, I suggest that you disable it; but if you are doing this, I assume that you would leave money on the table this way, as many people would not consider buying the product, or your customers that already have the product would be simply outraged. However, if you keep it in, I think that you should take care of it from end-to-end, including being truthful to the message from the Enhancement/Filter Application panel of saving the associative file where the file was opened in the given session.

The same goes for Qimage sessions that are being created by doing a drag-and-drop from a external tool or OS browser!

As a (suggested) solution, when someone opens a file using "open with" or through drag-and-drop in Qimage, Qimage should open a temporary "one file album", like is being done today, shift the "Folders (click to open/close)" to the newly generated ...\Plugins\Export\... folder, and mark the given Qimage session that it should save the associative files to the real location where the file came into Qimage working session. That would include all the files that might be added to the given sessions from all kinds of unrelated folders through drag-and-drop.

I don't think that this should be too difficult to achieve...

6  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 16, 2020, 10:15:47 AM
Hi Mike,

This is a test that depicts my issue.

  • I've create a simple folder on my C: drive, C:\Qimage test and placed there a jpg file, Hope.jpg
  • I opened the Hope.jpg file from the Qimage test folder with Qimage.
  • In Qimage I've altered the Exposure for this file, then I invoked Done
  • Qimage presented me with the Enhancement/Filter Application dialog that's clearly stating that the FLT associative file would be saved where the original file was opened from (see the EnhancementFilter Application_2.png file attached to this message); so, I'm expecting that the associative FLT file would be created in the C:\Qimage test directory.

Qimage saves the Hope.jpg and the FLT file in C:\ProgramData\ddisoftware\Qimage\Plugins\Export\2020-01-16 11.22.36 [Files]. I don't disagree in any way that that Qimage should use this "Export" folder, but that is not the expected behavior that is documented, and desired by me, in the Enhancement/Filter Application dialog.

I hope that this makes it more clear.
7  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 15, 2020, 02:58:06 PM
Fred, I'm blunt, direct, and I'm not impolite. I am sure that Mike is better than that, and his helping answers among the thread is a testimony of that, and that is why his answer gave me big time pause.

You are too biased as you know Mike for 20 years.

I just bought the product, and as any customer I expect what is standard from support standpoint.


I'm not expecting any answer form you Fred, going forward, and actually, based on the message you sent please don't.
 
However, I'm expecting DDISoftware, Mike, to stand by Qimage; if not, I'll be OK with a refund.



 
8  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 15, 2020, 01:10:01 PM
No.  The issue appears to be unique to your system.  No one else has ever reported a similar problem and it is not possible to replicate.  Unless there is some additional info beyond what has been discussed, it appears to be a problem outside the operation of Qimage.

Regards,
Mike

Oh Mike... You answer gave me pause, as I assume that you are very experienced software developer. You know that "it works on my system" is not a good answer when a customer reports an issue, right?

So, is that a matter of bandwidth for you time? If yes, than what is the complain-threshold for you would actually look into an issue?
Are there any logs that can be enabled and collected so you can identify where the problem is coming from?

Again, I was very surprised and disappointed by your answer...
9  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 15, 2020, 10:04:10 AM
Hi Mike,

Do you have any suggestions on how to fix the issue I have?
10  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 07, 2020, 10:21:58 PM
Hi Mike,

I'm an Affinity user, which does not support Qimage. I'm opening the files from iMatch. However, this is happening even if I open the original directly from the system.
11  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Re: Location of associative filter files on: January 06, 2020, 05:20:36 PM
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The Associative Filter file is saved in the C:\ProgramData\ddisoftware\Qimage\Plugins\Export\ folders instead of the location of where my photo is coming from.
The associative filter (.flt) gets saved in the same folder / location where the image is located.
So if you created some adjustments using Image Edit, that filter will be with the image. When you move it or copy it with Qimage, the filter moves too.
Fred

I agree Fred, that is how it should work, which is also my desirable behavior, but as I mentioned in my post, it is not saving the file in the location the photo file is coming from, but in one of the Export-created folders.
12  Forum Rules, Status, and Info / Forum Feedback, Status, Issues, etc. / Location of associative filter files on: January 06, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
The Associative Filter file is saved in the C:\ProgramData\ddisoftware\Qimage\Plugins\Export\ folders instead of the location of where my photo is coming from.
Am I doing something wrong here? Is there a setting that I could use to get the behavior that is documented in the Enhancement/Filter Application panel?
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