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1  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Help Green color cast on: December 02, 2010, 02:07:14 PM
Hi everybody,

Last time I posted on this forum I had a red color cast and with the help of the forum and Mike I managed to get a reasonably good profile, but this time the test print is showing slight green color cast.

I used the edit function in PP and with the grey selected (the center point) I matched the color cast as seen in the print (around the dog in front of the TV) by moving the green slider to the right. I got the left window to show approx. the same green color cast as seen on the print. I now saved this adjusted profile with a new name. However, when reprinting the test image the result was getting worse the color cast was getting stronger.

Can anyone help??

Regards,
Carl
2  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Red color cast on: November 18, 2010, 02:34:07 PM
Hello again Fred,

The instructions that I followed are actually from an old version of PP. As I told you, my latest profile was made by NCA and that was an improvement. I have just printed another target using the Premium Gloss Photo Paper as I have previously used. Once it has dried I will scan it and proceed to make another profile.

Can you please advise me on the minimum drying time before scanning the printed target?s

Carl
3  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Red color cast on: November 18, 2010, 12:00:15 PM
Dear Fred,

Thank you for your interest.

I have been following the instructions (sRGB) for Epson printers as explained in the instructions for PP. Please find it quoted below:

"Epson Printers

Epson printer: option 1 (sRGB or color controls)

On the "Paper" tab, make sure you have the proper paper size selected. Also ensure that "Printable Area" is set to "Standard".
On the "Main" tab, select the proper "Media Type" for the paper you are using.
Still on the "Main" tab, click "Custom" in the "Mode" group and click the "Advanced" button when it appears.
Under "Print Quality" select the highest DPI listed.
Under "Halftoning", select "High Quality Halftoning".
Check the "Microweave" box.
Uncheck the "High speed" box.
Under "Color Management", click "sRGB" if that option is available or "Color Controls" if sRGB is not an option.
If a "Gamma" setting is visible (when using "Color Controls" mode), set it to 1.8.
Under "Mode", select "Automatic".
Make certain that all sliders are set at zero position (center) if using "Color Controls" mode.
Click "OK" on all windows to accept the settings. "

I have just made another profile using the No Color Adjustment procedure.  The print is now coming out without the red color cast, but there is a hint of green. I will have to make a print of one of my earlier (as close as possible to perfect) photos to compare the result. However I find it very strange that for a couple of years I was using the sRGB method of profiling without any problems. For your information I am only using the Ilford Gloss Smooth Paper and I have always used the same ink. Since you mention "trying different papers" that is one thing that I have changed in the printer setup. I changed the setup from Premium Glossy Photo Paper to Glossy Paper Photo Weight. Could that make a difference?

The PP result for the Profile reads as follows:

Patches:   2 marked with X
Exposure:  217
Dynamic range: 79.8
Lab Space: 14.9
Smoothing: 2 Passes
                 0-255   0-255   0-255

What are your thoughts.

Kind regards,
Carl
Ibiza, Spain
4  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Red color cast on: November 17, 2010, 12:29:36 PM
Dear Fred,

Thank you for your input. I know that the monitor profile does not have any effect on the outcome of the print, but since I compare the print to what I see on the monitor it is of some importance. What I have noticed when profiling the monitor is that the screen color has a warmer tone before using the profile.

As to the printer profile I have always used the sRGB option as described in the PP workflow instructions. You might be right about a clogged nozzle, since I am not frequently using the printer. Against that is that I have been running a number of cleaning cycles and the nozzle test comes out OK.

I will make another profile using the "no color correction option" and see how it goes.

All the best,
Carl
5  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Red color cast on: November 17, 2010, 06:30:02 AM
I have been using PP and Qimage for several years together with an Epson 7500 wide format printer. I am using Ilford paper and a non Epson ink. I have been profiling my LCD monitor with Pantone Color Vision Spyder. I have always had extremely  good results using this equippment (colors on the monitor matching the print output).

A short while ago I had to reinstall Windows XP and at the same time I changed the Color Vision Spyder for a Spyder Express 3. I am still using PP and Qimage. The profiles that I have been creating with PP come out excellent. However, I now have a red color cast when printing. I have re-profiled the monitor and printer but I still have exactly the same red color cast.

I would be pleased if any one could come up with some suggestion what might be the probelm. Can it be that the Spyder 3 Express does not work as good as my old Color Vision Spyder Huh?

Kind regards,
Carl
 
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