I load several files into QI from a new Pentax K3 Monochrome camera.  All looks fine to start, but a few minutes later they all begin to automatically crop to a smaller size (They narrow in width to maybe 1/3 normal while height remains the same.) in the preview pane.

The print comes out now cropped to the size QI rebuilt the file to.

Pentax uses a PEX for their RAW (That does not work with some editing softwaare.) and DNG for the alternate that works with most anything except QI.

Ideas?

Fred, I thought my first query on how to save (easily) was clear enough.  You've quoted my frustration later too with Terry's addendums to the simple question.

Terry entered with a bunch of other stuff I do not care about so I responded to clairfy.  I just want an easy way to Save a edited image.  Seems it then went off the rails with you feeding into his tangent stream of thought as well.  Note that I did not even mention things like floating texts, mats, etc.  I didn't even mention any of that, just seeking an easy way to Save a image is all I wanted which seems obscure from the Main window and it is in the Edit one.

My frustration results from making my "Save" into a big production with all the other QU candy I do not use.  Terry's first response was "Why are you doing P2F to save an image?"  Cripes!  That is what I want to avoid.  Seems easy enough, but he took it off the rails and added a bunch of sundry stuff I could care less about.  It took you to come up with an easier way from within the Edit window and that's all that I wanted.

My final "How it should have been done" would have sufficed.  Why you guys entered with all the other sundry stuff to add onto a simple Save was not necessary at all and makes it far more complex to sort through.

"The Edit window has the TIFF and JPG Save to image in there" is all that was needed.  Notice to I mentioned someone may come up with a way to do it in the editor, just I didn't find it until you brought it up - and at which point you also tried to go on making it seem harder in PS too which I understand.

I'm out.


Mack

Geeze, no need for the condensation Terry for asking for an easier way!

The way you wrote your first explanation questioned Why using P2F (Which is why I didn't think this was a good way to save to begin with!!!), then pulled in a lot of the 'candy' portions (text, RAW, etc.), then you put the last sentence in the same paragraph explaining how to do it as though it were tied to the former.  That last sentence should have been in it's own paragraph to stand out without all the other Whys? and "If I did this or that" stuff, or ""convert" from the queue context menu" (Say huh?!?).  All I wanted was an easier way to "Save an image" than the current way the program seemed to work.


An easier way to explain it would have been:
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If you wish to save your edited work in QU, while you are in the "Edit" window where you've made your adjustments, go to File > Save as... (Upper left of that screen) and you can save to TIFF or JPG from there.  No need to try that from the Main window as it doesn't work as easily from there.

The "File" selection in the Editor's window has a different set of options than does the Main window in QU.  <-- This is the key solution.

Hope that helps!
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Note that nothing else like text, greeting cards, RAW, etc. was needed which convoluted the explanation.  Fred got it in a way that sunk in, although somewhat patronizing too.

Sheesh!  Ask a question around here and one gets blasted. 

Mack

There's the Ah-Ha! moment! 

So the "File" in the Editor is different than what "File" is in the Main window!  That's the trick!  They are set up differently and that's all I needed to know.

I was tearing my hair out with the other way to save an image going back and forth in the Main > "File" window.

All better now that I finally clicked on the Editor's "FILE" header and see it there and a straight-forward "Save as...(TIFF, JPG, etc.)" rather than that obscure Python language "Print to File" in the main one.

Thanks!

Mack

Brian-

Red River, Inkpress, and a few others sell cut paper in boxes in 17x25 inches which is close to the 24x36mm FX sensor (2:3) format.  It's called a full-frame digital paper.  Actually, 17 x 25.5 inches is perfect a FX ratio and I cut off rolls to that size (Actually 28" inches is what I cut as it seems to keep residual ink blots, roller messes, bent edges, etc, off the end that I can trim off later, and I do it on canvas too as it is finicky feeding and gets wrinkled and needs to be trimmed at times.) and print full frame.

Mack

Terry,

I'm not using text, mats, collages, greeting cards, frames, or whatever in QU (Your question #2).  That stuff is far too complex for me to dig into on a daily basis, and it isn't in my daily "Just print the darn thing and move on" workflow.  I'll use PS for that stuff as it saves normally to the image (AND QUICKLY!) and not in extra *.flt side files as does QU.  I just use QU for printing and minor print editing that I see from the printer only.  The extra candy mentioned is way too much for me to get involved with.

On the QU editing end, it is laborious to save an image for a client out of QU once printer/editing only functions are applied, no?  A simple "Save the image" without a bunch fly-outs, subsequent pop-up boxes, then needing click "Print" to even save it from another pop-out box, hunt down the folder it went to, then go back in the File menu and change it all back to the default "Print to Printer" stuff is arduous at best - and forgetful too.

There has to be a far better and easier (faster!) way to save an image to hand-off to someone else without going so far deep into the program, and then go back deep to put it back into print (default) mode.  Sorry, but it's getting far to complex for simple functions like print and save with all the fly-outs.

Mack

Fred,

You are correct in that I want to hand the image file back to someone so they can get the edited result.   They do not have QU and hand it off to their printer (Who uses Macs.).  They wouldn't know what to do with the side-file QU uses for the image so saving the image as a TIFF works better for the hand back of the image.

It's just that QU has a very obscure way of saving an edited image (to later give away) in the File menu.  I understand "Print" and "Save," but "Print to File" and "Print to Printer" (Very redundant!) just to save an edited image in QU seems very odd and laborious.  Then one has to hit the "Print" button tab to Save the image in yet another pop-up box.  Then locating it in a {Q}Print file when most other software just apply their extension in a "Save image" like _DxO.tif or _copy.tif or _01.tif or even _copy_copy_.tif (or _.psd) as onONe does on multiple edits.  And once done in QU, then one has to go back to check "Print to Printer" to put it back into printing mode.

Something simple like File > Save Image is so much easier than the current incantation and menu footwork.  Just save the image with a _DSC7321_QU.tif extension in the same folder or something.

In my way of understanding QU's File menu.  


Now someone will tell me there is a one-step "Save image" button in the Editor somewhere - ugh!  

Mack

Interesting info on the "Borderless" Brian.  Thanks.

What I found was the "Page Layout" tab in the Epson driver screen has the "Print to Size" box checked and it showed the "Size:  17 x25 inches -> 8.5 x 11 inches" the first (Main)  tab.  I don't know why or how that "Print to size" gets checked (Default?), but when the Main tab's "Size:  window" has some -> it seems to be the issue and why it changed back to 8.5 x 11 inches.  I had 17.00 and 25.00 as the fill-ins, but it somehow goes to 8.50 to 11.00?

QU reports the size correctly in its window, but the Epson driver sure can fuddle the printing up if one doesn't pay attention to all the fine print in the Epson pop-up driver stuff.  Doesn't show the size issue that's about to go wrong when the Epson driver shows a "Preview" either (I don't see any size numbers there.).

Mack

I set the printer and Qimage for 17x 25 inches.  All seems well and QU shows 16.994 x 24.994in in the right window pane.

Epson was set at "User defined" 17 x 25 inches too.  Paper thickness at 3, Color Management Off.  Etc.

Then when it prints, it reverts back to 8.5 x 11 inches so I waste a sheet of 17 x25 inch paper.    QU still shows 16.994 x 24.994 inches in the right pane.

What is going on here?  

Ver. 2015.107 fwiw.

add:

For some reason, even though I entered 17 x25 inches as "User Defined" and selected that in the Epson driver, it shows in "Size: 17 x 25 inches -> A4 210 x 297 mm"   

That 17 x25 is messing me up as the other part of 210 x 297 is 8.5 inches by 11 inches?  No?

How do I get this to work without wasting paper?


Mack

Since I had to find my old post one how to save an edited image again this AM, and then trying to find it in the weird {Q}Prints folder.... 

Wish the software had an easier way of saving our altered Qimage files than changing the pull-down to read "Print to File" and then the need again to hit "Print" again to assign it into a folder to save and see it.  Then having to go back in and alter it to "Print to Printer" to send it to the printer.  Seems a lot of wasted effort for a simple "Save image" and "Print to File" makes no sense at all.  You print or you don't, but a "Print to file?"

Seems it would be easier to have a "Save to File" in the initial pull-down menu for a Qimage edited/altered print than going through all the menus to get it to Save an edited image.

Mack

QU has a histogram in it? 

Maybe a Printogram?

Mack

Add:

Had to uninstall and reinstall the Epson drivers.  The first re-install of the drivers go stuck too.  Had to do a uninstall from the Device Manager and then the installation worked.  QU also operates now too with the small Epson Charm.

However, the clog on the cyan still was there and came back severly to the point only two of the cyan blocks on all the diagonals showed up in Epson Nozzle Check.  Took two flushings and more cyan came back and the magenta began to clog, or perhaps got some air due to the cart changeout.

Let it sit overnight and it is flowing and working again and all nozzles are firing.

I did notice that in the newest QU with the diagonals they are very faint compared to the Epson diagonals.  I could barely see them even with partially plugged colors or fully working ones.  I don't know if Epson has some special design and angle in their nozzle check pattern that picks up all the nozzles in their sloped design and thickness of the blocks in the staggered pattern.

Least it's working again, but seems to be the worst clogger I got out of 6 printers - and it is dye ink too!  I can be assured of a clog within one week with it, and when it loses only one bar in the Epson nozzle check it shows as a faint line about 2-3mm apart.

Mack

Just got back from store with new ink cart.  Installed and nozzle check shows cyan still messed up, maybe air in line on changeover.

Into QU now.

Well, Windows 8.1 sees the printer, but it isn't working at all from QU.  QU shows it as an active printer and paper size is 4x6 so they are talking to each other.

QU shows "Finished Processing" for the Unclogger pattern in 4x6, the Epson printer window pops up, and the screen on the printer's LCD says "Printing..." and that's all that happens.  No print comes out of it even 5 minutes now.   

Okay, Now the Epson printer window now just popped up an "Error-Printing" under the Status column in the menu bar.  Printer LCD still shows "Printing..."

I hit Cancel on the printer (Stop/Clear button with a red X) and it says "Canceling..." but that seems stuck too.  Been two minutes now and still "Cancelling..."

Time for "Power Off" button I guess?

Guess it won't.  I need to find out more and try reloading all the drivers and software for it maybe.

Mack

Turns out my Epson Charm PM-225 clogged and ran out of ink.  This damn dye-ink printer does it once a week and it just did it again.  One small missing diagonal and the prints show a fine light-colored/white line every 3-4mm in the print.  I'm going to start wrapping it in plastic with a wet towel and see if it stops clogging.

So I ran its cleaning maintenance which wastes a lot of ink, and it ran out of ink on the cyan.  Bad part is you have to buy both the ink cart (all colors) as well as the paper a s a bundle, about $40-$50 depending on local store. Seems I never get the entire 150 sheets timed with its cartridge as it always runs out of ink around 80 prints, but Epson buys the blanks back at 30 cents each.  Prints do look very good - when it works right.  People like printing with it in the field as it runs on a snap-in battery.

Does QU operate the Unclogger with smaller paper printers like the Canon and Epson portables that only accept smaller papers like 4x6 or 5x7?

Tia.

Mack

Mike, wouldn't a diagonal show a clogged nozzle easier than the current straight "unlcogger lines" now?  I cannot tell from the straight band-type lines if a nozzle isn't firing as the bands are only straight parallel lines and maybe not utilizing a nozzle in the head that is indeed clogged in the straight line printed.  A diagonal that utilizes all of the head may show it?  Might show up as being a jagged block where it could be a smooth band now if that one nozzle is out of the loop in the unclogger pattern.

Personally, the Epson Nozzle Check pattern is very fine and almost hard to see (Yellow), or the Gloss Optimizer (clear) or a very light black in the K7 piezo inksets.  Epson must have some reason for doing it that way, or maybe their method utilizes all the nozzles in the head and sets the bad one apart?

My two cents.

Mack