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1  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: May 21, 2016, 07:23:48 PM
Continuing the conversation....

I've been a customer for a while now and tried to chunk up a DVD (again, a while back) but didn't have much success. It's most likely because I didn't have access to a good scanner.

Now that I've recently retired my Canon iP4500 and just bought a Canon MX922 and have also recently switched from JVC Watershield DVDs to FalconMedia SmartGuard Glossy DVDs, I'm back to see if anything has changed with regard to providing a target for DVDs.

With more printers having the capability to print on CD/DVDs, is there any chance you would reconsider your position of not making a round target? It's been a few years now that Canon has been able to provide direct to CD/DVD printers in the US similar to what Epson has been doing for years.

As the MX922 has a scanner and probably better software than what I had before, I'll have to give your suggestion a try: ...print a 4x3 poster of the target from 1x1.87 inch pages and then printing that to file: you'd get 12 files all chunked up for you.  Then just print those 4 at a time on the discs and piece them together from the scans.


At any rate, I'm bringing this topic to the top for consideration. Thanks.

 
2  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: February 21, 2011, 07:48:32 PM
Fair enough, Mike. I too want to make a good business decision on whether or not to buy your product.

I'm not asking for a guarantee but rather if you think PP will be worth my investment given what I'm trying to do.

Quote from: Mike Chaney
That's a significant feature to implement when you and maybe one other person will ever use it.
If you do polls, maybe this could be one to gauge interest.


Ray, interesting idea. Only Mike can say it that has a remote chance of working.
3  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: February 21, 2011, 04:28:36 PM
OK, a glimmer of hope...

I would say that the CDs you tried didn't hold a candle to the WaterShields so I can see why you have your opinion. I mentioned what I print with in my first post here, a Canon iP4500. My projects are about 25 to 40 DVDs each but babysitting the printer isn't too bad. I haven't researched labels recently but I've heard that they're "bad" as the adhesive can get warmed up in the player and cause the label to shift where the disc doesn't play well or at all anymore. I don't want to start that debate here so let's just leave it where you like labels and I don't.

I use HP Brochure Paper Q1987A that I buy from Staples. I'm happy with how it prints, folds and cuts so I don't think I'll change from it. It does print similarly (sort of) but I'm trying to get to the "next level" in hopes of making the discs match it.

I have no problem sacrificing discs to create a working profile as I'm doing that now with each project. PP tweaker? Sounds like it's where you make the fine adjustments to the profile, I like it.

So I guess the bottom line is that I have a good chance to get working profiles for the paper and discs to closely match, correct?

While I'm not a customer yet, I would echo the OPs request to create a disc shaped color target and necessary changes to PP to read it.

Ray, thanks for the suggestions. I like the idea of offsetting the target a few times.  
4  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: February 21, 2011, 02:54:36 AM
Quote from: Mike Chaney
Honestly, I wouldn't bother fooling with those.
Well, I've been "fooling" with them for over five years and have been extremely happy with them.

Quote from: Mike Chaney
Those print so poorly
I disagree, they produce awesome looking prints that rival any quality glossy photo paper. Have you seen them first hand or is it just an opinion? Taiyo-Yuden WaterShield white glossy DVD discs?

Quote from: Mike Chaney
I've never really understood why people try to print directly on discs anyway.
Just the opposite for me.

Quote from: Mike Chaney
The printable discs cost more than a regular disc plus a label
Yes, WaterShield discs do cost more, but I'm a videographer who shoots youth theater and sells the DVDs complete with case insert and booklet inside the case. I want a more professional look than matte labels applied to the disc. For personal use discs, I use Verbatim 95079 white printable discs.

Quote from: Mike Chaney
the labels are easier to make, faster to apply, and look a whole lot better.
I use a PhotoShop template to create the disc image - save as a jpeg file, then use Canon's CD-LabelPrint software to print the discs. Very easy and nothing to apply. I would argue that the WaterShield discs look a whole lot better than an applied label.

My trouble is that, while the print quality is excellent on the WaterShield discs, the color varies slightly from the HP Glossy Brochure Paper I use. I keep playing with the manual color settings in the Canon printer settings until I get it "close enough". In the process I waste 5 or more discs.

For argument's sake and assuming the print quality is a ton better than you think, will I be able to get a decent profile from PP given the discs physical size and shape?


Quote from: Fred A
So I ask you, how fussy are you going to be with profiling a hard printable disk,
As I mentioned, I sell the DVDs I produce to the families of the youth theater so I am very fussy. It's not very professional if the colors vary. I print the same artwork (high quality PhotoShop files - nothing downloaded) on the case insert and disc face so I want them to match as close as possible. If it were for home use as you do for your neighbors, then it wouldn't be such a big deal.
5  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: February 20, 2011, 02:20:09 AM
Thanks Mike, but as Ray said, the discs I use are printable discs, not labels.
6  Mike's Software / Profile Prism / Re: Profiling for printable CDs/DVDs on: February 19, 2011, 05:34:49 AM
I know this is an old topic, but the subject applies so I didn't want to start a new topic......

After seeing how popular Profile Prism is over at the Inkjet Printer Forum, I'm considering buying it. The goal is to match my printouts between HP Brochure Paper (glossy) and Taiyo-Yuden (now JVC) WaterShield (glossy) DVD discs using a Canon iP4500 printer.

As mentioned by the OP, the concern is being able to profile the DVD disc. Will I be able to create a good printer profile for these discs?

I have multiple projects a year and waste ~5 discs on each trying to get the colors on the disc to match the brochure paper as close as possible. But it's never quite right so I just live with it. I want to take them to the next level and get them closer while eliminating the waste hence my interest in this software.
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