I DO believe that to be the culprit.  I deactivated CS5, uninstalled 12.0.4 and rebooted, then installed 12.0 x32 from the installation disk and it seems to behave very well in regard to handling aRGB files.  IF I find this to be the case after a few MORE hours of experimenting, I will NOT update it since that seems to fix my problem of aRGB files being improperly saved as sRGB files by Photoshop.

MikeSp

I hate to admit how many hours I have wasted getting an understanding of what the h*** was going on with my workflow that had taken so long to create but which worked great for several years and suddenly I am getting the wrong colors and JPEGs with sRGB color space when I had processed them from raw into the aRGB color space and had PS set for aRGB and assumed I was still getting files in the aRGB although Qimage indicated that they were sRGB...  Confusing and FRUSTRATING

My work flow will change to use TIFFs for printing (no big deal since I now understand what the problem is) and sRGB JPEGs for emailing -- EXCEPT I just do not have the time or patience to go back and reprocess hundreds of images -- no wonder Adobe is not admitting the JPEG corruption bug.

AND I may very well upgrade to Ultimate and ignore the many things it can do since I will not move away from C1 for raw conversion.  Qimage Pro does EVERYTHING that I need and does it PERFECTLY -- wish that a "Light" version of Ultimate would be developed for those of us that do not need most of the bangs and whistles in Ultimate.

Mike

The issue with Qimage reading the ICC profile is continuing and it may or may not be based upon Qimage -- probably not, but would appreciate hearing from the experts.

I have two Adobe RGB (1998) ICC's listed in Capture One 6 Pro that I use to convert raw images to jpgs -- it doesn't matter which one I use, because WHEN I convert the same image 8 times with either of the two aRGB ICC's and send the resulting JPG's to Photoshop CS5, where it defaults to Adobe RGB, Qimage will read ~6 of the resulting images as sRGB and 2 as aRGB.  I have Photoshop set to notify me if there is an ICC color space difference and it does not do so and thus, CS5 appears to be reading the converted images ALL as aRGB.

I replaced the Adobe RGB (1998) ICC in Windows Vista 32 with a brand new copy from Adobe -- made no difference.

IF I use Adobe Camera Raw to convert my raw images to JPG's, THEN Qimage will correctly read ALL of them as aRGB.

All three programs (C1 6 Pro, PS CS5 and Qimage Pro) are normally stable, dependable programs.

BTW -- I can visually pick out the thumbnails in Qimage that are in the aRGB color space when testing with 8 of the same exact image with the raw conversion procedure although I still use the "Display Image Info" to verify.

I realize it is possible for color space ICC's to become corrupted and that several different programs can put in their own aRGB ICC.

I also realize it is unlikely that Qimage is the culprit based upon the information given above.

Thoughts/opinions as to what to do next in order to get my workflow back to a dependable aRGB color space?

Thanks,

MikeSp

Done!!!! Sorry I did not think of that and thanks for the reminder -- I try to be fair and exhibit good manners, but even at my tender age, need a reminder from time to time -- I don't multitask as well as I used to.

As it turns out, the main issue I was having was NOT at all with Qimage (am happily using it again) but with an icon that was hiding in Capture One which opened up a dropdown menu in which the ICC was set and somehow -- perhaps with an upgrade -- had been changed.

AND, thanks for the help of all who responded to this thread.

MikeSp

Good idea -- however, the issue I was having was two-fold: the wrong ICC profile in Capture One AND AND AND the wrong profile in PS too...  I DID make the assumption that once set, they would never change, but with upgrades, they did change.

Thanks,

MikeSp

WHOA!!!!  I went back and checked the image profiles (as you suggested) from a sampling of images for this year and found that I had (GASP) somehow used three different ICC Profiles: Adobe RGB 1998; sRGB IEC61966-2.1; and CanonEOS5DMk2-Generic.

I assumed (yeah -- I know about how that word "assumed" can be broken down;-) that I was using aRGB.  Now I need to go back and check my workflow and get back to aRGB that I have been using for years.  THAT incorrect profile (color space) appears to be the issue as you surmised!!!

Big DUH!!  on my part -- perhaps I can blame it on senioritis...

Thanks,

MikeSp

Here is a screen capture of the same image in PS CS5 and when printed, it appears exactly as shown below -- bright red.

IF I can provide any other details that would provide the clue as to what I am doing wrong since we know it is NOT Qimage, but ME -- let me know -- I am really missing Qimage Pro as my printing software.

Thanks,

MikeSp

Here is a screen capture of a red car in the Qimage print queue -- notice how maroon it appears -- and it prints out exactly the same.  The shot was taken in raw and converted into the aRGB color space by Capture One 6 Pro.  In the next posting, there is a screen capture of the image in PS.

MikeSp

Here is a copy of the basic settings I am using in Qimage:

MikeSp

I have used Qimage for years and never had an issue -- ALWAYS perfect color match to Photoshop and to what I saw on the monitor and to what printed out.  That changed a month ago and have been printing (GAG) from Photoshop.

I am using a NEC 2690WUXi2 calibrated monitor, HP B9180 printer and Windows Vista 32.  With a fresh calibration of the monitor, the colors printed in Photoshop are an exact match for what I see on the screen -- using Photoshop-managed colors.

In the past, the colors printed in Qimage Pro were equivalent and the detail slightly better than that of Photoshop plus the convenience of selecting a couple of dozen images to print and go off and let the printer do its thing in Qimage.

Now, mainly the reds are an issue -- being dull and more maroon when printed and I can see that color change in the images as shown in Qimage and they print exactly as shown in the Qimage selections on the screen.  
--For Monitor ICC, I have selected the ICC profile for the monitor I have shown above with D65 and Gamma 2.2 as usual.  
--For Printer ICC, I have selected the HP PSPro B9100-Advancced Photo Glossy as usual.
--In Qimage color management, all of the following are checked: Honor EXIF color space tag..., Monitor Profile Enabled, Printer Profile Enabled, Printer Profile Rendering Intent -- Perceptual, Embed ICC profiles in saved/converted images...

In the Printer Driver -- Application Managed Colors is selected along with the correct paper and size

I have even uninstalled the latest version of Qimage Pro and gone back to a much earlier version that worked fine, but the same exact issue occurred -- what I saw on the monitor was what printed out and what I saw for images with bright red on the monitor were dingy maroon.

Also, I RESET ALL program settings and started from scratch on setting up the ICC profiles listed above.

Any ideas as to what I have done different to cause the color shift -- I AM printing what I see in Qimage but what Qimage is seeing is NOT what Photoshop shows or prints.

Suggestions/opinions/ideas???

Thanks,

MikeSp