Now that I have been generating good profiles I am saving them directly to the windows profile directory.  I just thought I would share the issue since it is so unusual.

Thought that I would bring this up in case others run into this.  I have never seen this problem before.  It was hard to find out what it meant by searching the Microsoft Technet forum.

After creating a profile, the files were being saved in the program directory.  I went to the directory so that I could move it to the windows "Color" directory.  But the file wasn't showing up in the directory.  It took me a while to find out what was happening.  I noticed there was a new menu item in Windows Explorer called "compatibilty files".  I clicked on this option and all the profiles suddenly appeared.  This was strange and I have never seen this before.  The solution to the problem was to create a new directory in the Prism directory and copy and paste the files to the new location.  After copying the files they were visible in normal explorer window.

I searched the net and found the following resource : http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-files/windows-explorer-compatibility-files/5b377209-cfe4-4be6-959d-e1de4b8be16d .

I'm not sure why this happened on my PC.  I am running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit OS.  PP doesn't use any virtulization in the profile creation as far as I can see.  I do not use virtualization applications that I use.  I do have VMware installed on my PC but rarely use it and I only have one virtual PC application for Windows XP that I have used from time to time byt certainly not lately.

Oh well if anyone else runs into this maybe this info will help.

Kevin

OK, we can put this thead to bed.  Profiled the 3 targets I printed yesterday and all went well.  All 3 papers print just as they are supposed to.  It just works.

Thanks for the help guys.

Kevin

You missed this sentance:


When I printed the target I turned off all color controls in the printer driver.

I will reprint the target using the job.

I did read Mike's article and my program and driver settings settings follow his recommendations.  I used the same exact printer driver settings when I printed the target that I used when I printed the printer test.  In Qimage I set the printer to "Let printer/driver to manage color" when printing the PP target.  When I printed the printer test image I set the profile to be used by Qimage.  Here is the screen print of the set up for printing using the pp profile.  These job settings are saved under the profile so every time I choose this profile it asks if I want to load the saved settings.

Hi Terry,

Like I stated earlier if the print preview looks close then I will print the image to see if there is a match.  But, if the preview is as far off as the one I show in the first message printing would be a waste of paper.  It's not hard to check the preview and determine if the print will be close to right.  I waste enough paper as it is.


The printer driver is obviously the problem here.  It was not due to a settings issue.  I always selected "No Color Mangement" and checked all other settings to be sure that the driver was not set to manage any settings except for the paper size, paper type, and printing speed.  I removed the printer from the PC, downloaded new drivers and reinstalled the printer.  There was no change in the results.  The printer wants to manage the color so I guess I will have to let it.

Kevin

Well Ray, you got me thinking and I ran a few more tests.  I pulled up the profile in the editor to see what it looked like.  To my surprise the profile screen and printer looked almost the same.  Which is what the Prism screens told me because they looked very good during profile generation.  Ok now I brought up Photoshop CS5 and set the print up just like is Qimage with Photoshop using the PP profile and the printer setting set to no color controls.  When I printed the file the print preview looked the same as when I used Qimage, heavy color cast.

Then I tried it again, setting photoshop to allow the printer to manage the color and set the printer driver up to use the PP profile.  The print screen was almost the same as the original print, or as close as a print screen can show.  So I then tried the same with Qimage and set Qimage to allow the printer to manage the color settings.  The print preview was the same as photoshop.  The print screen looked real good.

So now I have no idea why it is working this way.  My work-around will work I just wonder why it doesn't work when Qimage uses the profile to manage the color.  Any ideas?

Kevin

Hi Ray,

That image is the copy of the screen showing the print preview on my monitor.  My monitor profile is good.  What this shows is a heavy color cast.  This shows approximately what the paper print looked like.  If there was only a slight inacuracy between the print and the screen view then showing you this print preview would serve no purpose.  The heavy color cast is very obvious and printing it would be a waste of paper.

I have printed this image prior to this and it did look very close to the print preview.  I'm not depending the print preview completely to make my evaluation.  I just included it to show what is happening when I use the profile I created.  I should have included that information, sorry,

Kevin

I'm using Win 7 Pro 64bit and trying to profile ink/paper for my older Epson R-1800.  I just bought an Epson V600 scanner.  I scanned the target 40 using "no color controls" on the scanner.  The Profile Prism seemed to run like it was supposed to (see attached screen shots) and created a good profile for the scanner acording to the results.  I have printed the target and scanned it in with the scanner by using the standard No color managements settings and tried with or without the scanner profile.  I have attached the screen shots of the profile process results screen using the scanner profile to scan the images.  I have also included a screen shot of the print screen of the printer output.  Do you have any suggestions on how to produce a successful profile?  I have a lot of time in this so far with no good results yet.  The data I included are of my best results so far.  There were some very bad profiles created also.  I'm kind of stuck at this point















Print screen of the printing attempt.

Kevin