Many txs Fred.  Great service.  I see now - initially I had not linked text to new template, but once that was ticked all fell in place.

Txs Fred.   I HAVE JUST WRITTEN THE 2 PARAS BELOW BUT BEFORE POSTING DECIDED TO REDO A TEMPLATE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS/HAPPENED.  THIS TIME I PRODUCED NONE OF THE PROBLEMS DESCRIBED BELOW AND THE TEMPLATE WORKS AS IT SHOULD AND I SAVED IT WITHOUT ANY IMAGES (AS I HAD FIRST TIME ROUND).  ON REOPENING THE TEMPLATE DOES NOT BRING WITH IT A LONG PRINT QUEUE.  BUT I STILL HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WENT ON THE FIRST TIME ROUND.  HOWEVER IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW HOW I CAN OVERRIDE THE PROBLEM OF CENTERING A BLOCK OF TEXT WHILST NOT HAVING IT IN THE ACTUAL CENTRE OF A PORTRAIT PAGE.


I have just reopened QI and reopened my template.  Before attempting to add the images that I want to place within the template, the print queue tells me that there are 486 images and 243 pages (ie 2 images per page).  Opening the second template again the queue tells me that there are 54 images and 27 pages.  Somehow in setting up the template I seem to have built in a command to print all these images etc.  I have looked at the queue opened up with 243 pages (which is printing front and back on same page in portrait mode).  Selecting pages at random to print pages 1-242 are the first template (in landscape mode) I designed and saved, whilst page 243 is the template I actually opened (portrait mode) and is visible on screen.  The same applies to the first template designed (landscape mode) - only page 27 is the same as that opened and visible.  Equally bizarre is the fact that queue include various options from different image files that I opened to try in the template.   I should add that after designing the landscape version I closed the queue and then reopened this template and readjusted to make a portrait card, and saved accordingly.  I have no idea how all these pages came about and come to be 'attached' to each template.  The queue seems to contain all the various stages I went through to get the design as I wanted it, although I can't think I went through 243 or 27 different design changes, but may have done so. After each redesign I saved the template but each time overwrote the last change, so leaving myself with only one copy of the said template. 

Re floating text - yes 4 independently movable.  I know that one can align by selecting the relevant align button.  This works fine when designing the back of a landscape card and I have no problem with setting the text as I want it.   But when trying to design the half page to be the back of the card to be printed in portrait mode, centering the text using the button works but this also centers the text in the middle of the page, not where I want it on the 'back' of the card.  When moving the text to where I do want it, what was a 'centered'  paragraph, reverts to a left alignment.  Thus my problem.  How to override the center button's built in page centering, whilst retaining the centering of the actual text.  I have just tried this on making a new template in a simple portrait page and find the same - text remains centred provide the paragraph is also in the centre of the page.  As soon as one moves it off centre the text realigns left.   If that makes sense!

At long last i have turned to Qimage to make a standard template to reuse.  Having done so and saved, I clear the print queue and reload the saved template.  However I end up with a very long print queue, even though I thought I had saved the basics for just one page, with two images.  I first saved a template for a landscape A4 card with one image on front and a smaller one plus standard text on back.  I then reloaded, having first cleared the print queue and loading from 'custom' and revised this template to be a portrait card and saved etc.  On clearing the queue I reloaded the latter and ended up with 81 in the print queue.   I cleared the queue and reloaded again, only this time ended up with 243 in the print queue.  Each time I reload I use different images for the card.  If I go to the end of the print queue and elect to print just that page, I get what I want, but surely one should not have to scroll down to the very last in the print queue for this?   Why/how are so many pages being produced?

Second query - with landscape selected I wrote a short paragraph about myself - managed to center the text and center on the page where I wanted the text to appear on the 'back' of the card.   However when trying to do the same in portrait mode, I found it impossible to center (align) the text and ensure that it was also in the center of the 'back' of the card.  I had to manually try and center within the back.  I have 4 separate floating pieces of text on the back of each card.  How in portrait mode can I actually center (align) the text and center on this half of the page?  and center the smaller image without trying to manually guess?

Wow Fred - rapid response team!  Thanks.

We do have an answer if not a solution.  I had meant to try Epson's papers as I had some etc and forgot.  So loading the Epson Paper profile and comparing printer managed with software mgd, the results are the same both in LR and QI.  Both provide accurate prints using paper profile from within software or by printer.  I have used two different Epson papers and similar results.  Prints are identical from within printer or via software.  As we have noted already the preview window when software controls the profile does show up much redder, than if printer mags profile.  I should also add the same results are achieved if the image is exported from within LR to QI and then printed.

Thus it is the Fotospeed profiles that must be at fault.  I will ask them to do machine matched profiles for me and see what happens.   or change to Epson papers!!  once I have used my rather large stock of Fotospeed paper!!

Chris M

Hello

Since I recently bought a new Epson 3000 I have been having problems similar to ADWB.  I too use Fotospeed Papers here in UK.  Fotospeed supplied generic profiles for all their papers with their inkflow system.  Using LR4 now 5 the problem showed immediately when I used the new printer.  Previously used R1800 Epson and the problem never manisfested itself with that, using inkflow and Fotospeed papers and profiles made for my machine.  Fotospeed tried to sort the problem out via online PCtoPC and suggested that one should softproof in LR or go to softproof in CS5.  I have produced perfectly acceptable prints from CS5 but it is more problematic from LR.  Having spent a day trying numerous combinations, googling last Friday (28/06) threw up QI.   I immediately downloaded and printed a couple and they matched exactly monitor so was sold and bought immediately.  As I played around with QI, I realised that the settings in QI had been set for Printer Managed (using the correct ICC profile).  The Epson preview window (which I accept is not accurate) did match the monitor and prints were perfect (almost) but when I let QI manage the paper profile, with printer driver Colour Mgt off, I get exactly the same results as ADWB.  The preview window enhances any tone that it is remotely red and the resulting print is more saturated, than allowing Printer to manage. 

Using a RAW image direct from a Sony A99 I get exactly the same results with QI as I do in LR5.  That is in terms of oversatuaration of reds in particular.   It makes no difference if I softproof or not in LR.  The printer managed profile is as per monitor (calibrated) whilst the LR5 managed paper profile is slightly more saturated.  This is particularly noticeable with skin tones.  Where the original looks 'normal, the software managed paper profile shows a distinct rosy complexion.  Preview windows for the Epson 3000 reflect what comes out, i.e. prints match preview window (which is slightly more saturated than prints).

By and large the prints allowing QI or LR to manage and not the printer are acceptable but I would rather the tones are not as saturated, and find it frustrating that the paper profiles used by either software are not wholly reliable.

As ADWB has exactly the same problem (and my screen shots would look similar) this suggests that it may be down to the Fotospeed paper profiles, although I do not understand why if the printer seems to interpolate these correctly with less inbuilt 'accuracy' compared to QI, it can be the paper profiles.

If I get acceptable prints using the printer driver rather than or LR then one side of me say I should not be bothered, but the other says that the software, especially QI, should do a better job and hence i want to get it right.  To that end i did wonder about using Prism but at another $80 that seems a bit too far when Fotospeed will produce custom profiles.  But again if the printer produces reasonably accurate prints with the generic profiles it suggests to me that it is the software?

What suggestions does the team have?

Chris M