After considering your comments and experience with pigment printers, I am now considering primarily between the Canon pro 100 and the Epson artisan 1430.   I want to be able to print large  don't care for glossy paper. Want to be able to use art papers and be able to print black  and  white  as well as vibrant color prints.  If all else between these two is essentially the same then cost of ink will come into play.

Thanks for the reply Fred.  I have been out of the loop for a while....about 7-8 years at least.  The hp  9180 was hp's new pigment printer when I dropped out....now it's discontinued .  Is your canon pro 100 dye or pigment?  Your post about it sounds like it does a great job.

Hp 9800 printer still works fine, old computer died, newer computer running windows 7, no drivers available from hp except win7  built in USB drivers.  In qimage  ultimate, no choices show in icc  profiles.  Options I am considering:
1 new printer, but I like to print wide format (13") so this could be expensive and would probably go to pigment inknow printer if I did this.
2 backtrack operating system  to XP  where full suite driver software still available  but not sure I still have a functional  os  disc.
3 try to custom profile with hp papers I have using the profile prism 6.02 that I still have.
4 other options I haven't thought of

I would  appreciate any serious recommendations offered....thank you in advance.
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