Hi Mike,
How does it print using Let printer manage color, with the driver set to ICM?

If that looks good, then it is likely the profile settings i.e paper choice, quality setting wasn't set right.
Ilford used to have a pdf file that was a bit confusing as to selecting paper type from an Epson printer driver selection.
They had a code, and you had to select the pertinent letter from the code that indicated the paper choice from their list in that PDF file.
It was confusing to say the least.
Have another look at that.
I managed to find it and I attached it

Fred

If your settings and paper selection are correct.
Yes
I just downloaded the profile for Ilford Smooth Pearl.
The instructions say, use Epson Prem Glossy as you said, then NO COLOR ADJUSTMENT in the driver.
So the driver is set as above, and Qimage or other is set to use downloaded profile, n_IGSPP11_EPR3000_EPGn.icc
It should come out pretty good.
Question:
Is the print good, but just darker than your monitor?
Your monitor might be too bright even though it's color profiled. I am not familiar with the Munki.
Maybe Terry or Brian can tackle that part.

Fred.

Of course you can try it. It might surprise you, but the suggested paper type is Epson Premium Glossy. That means the profile was created from a target print made using that selection.


This is confusing me.
Can you clarify?
You used the info sheet, selected the EPPG paper, and then set *it* to sRGB; set what to sRGB?  The profile in Qimage, the driver to sRGB instead of No Color Adjustment?

Next item:
When I went to download the profile, there were three for Smooth Pearl (sort of).   They had Smooth Pearl Plus, Photo Pearl, and a third, Smooth Pearl.
Are you sure you chose the correct one.?

Question?
If you set Qimage to let printer manage color, and follow and stick to the settings recommended, Driver to ICM, Printer profile in Qimage set to the preselected \prgb.icm, do you get a normal print or a dark print?
If we get an answer to that, we can proceed.

Fred

Hi Mike,
The profiles above are for 2 different papers.
P9 is the older version of the Smooth papers and P11 is the latest which was introduced last year. P11 is supposed to be an improved paper.
The boxes have a different photo on them: P9 a girls face behind a blurred mask; P11 a girls face in a definite frame.
The other thing to watch is, from what Fred has told me, US versions of these papers are different from European versions. The ones I use (UK) are 290gsm; the US versions are thinner.
The old P9 did recommend using the Premium Semi Gloss paper setting but now with P11, it is Premium Gloss.
On the back of a box of Smooth Pearl I have in front of me the paper reference number is IGSPP11EU.
I now use custom profiles for these papers (Epson R800) but the Ilford P11 profiles gave good results as far as I can remember.

I used to get dark prints with these papers(P9)  but with new custom profiles, using QU for raw with a camera profile (I made my own) and a monitor calibrated to give a luminance value of 120cd/squM, I get a very good match. Prior to that I would use a Print Filter  with a consistent small Fill value to compensate for dark prints.
It's probably worth checking you monitor calibration - do you use there "advanced" method that allows you to set a luminance (= brightness) value? A common reason for dark prints is a monitor set too bright.
Hope that is of some help.
Terry

Terry,
Thanks again for your replies..,

On my box it says."IIGSPP1USA"  ,it also says.."290GSM"  ,so it looks like the weight is the same....

I usually calibrate my monitor,once a month ,using the" Advanced" settings,and set the luminanace value at 120cd.

When I get a response from Ilford,  I'll post back.

As of now though,and until I have a profile made ,I'll just use the "let printer control color" settings..this is giving me the closest print, to what I see on my monitor.

Mike