prints to dark

Jeff

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Re: prints to dark

« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2018, 05:01:13 PM »

I had a Eizo S2110 with a Epson R1900 and prints were almost always too dark it made no difference calibrating the monitor and setting brightness mostly down to 80cd/M^2 or even lower. I came to the conclusion something on my system was resetting the brightness For printing I got over the problem by adjusting the brightness in QI

I now have a new Eizo 24" monitor with hardware calibration same as Terry printing through a Canon Pro S100 with the brightness set to 100 and no dark print problem. I also have a setting (profile) at 80

I still have the original Eizo now coupled to a Linux Comp. So as a test I have viewed an image with this setup.

Screen is way too bright and under linux had to set brightness down to 0% to get similar brightness.

Coupled the original Eizo to Windows comp. and although only the windows desk top background image will show find I have to set brightness to 75cd or lower to get a match but difficult to judge because colours appear to be way too warm.

Work still to do is to get the original screen working with windows and see where that takes us.

So far I think it proves my dark prints were a question of screen settings.

Jeff


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Re: prints to dark

« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2018, 06:03:46 PM »

Now that you mention the R1900, I do remember that I wasn't very happy with Epson's profiles for that printer. I didn't think much of it because I always make my own profiles anyway. My complaint was that the R1900 Epson profiles tended to block the shadows a bit. I guess that could be interpretted as too dark depending on the subject matter. Once I created my own profiles, the blocked shadows were gone so maybe Epson just wasn't using the best equipment when they created profiles for those older printers.

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rockingroy

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Re: prints to dark

« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2018, 09:07:54 PM »

Thanks for the replies I am sorry for the delay but have not been around until now.

I am unsure of how to get screen shots to you.

But the printer settings are essentialy the same as yours in the picture. bar Photo RPM - I have best photo

And the high speed is turned off.

I have now done a further print using file manager to print the test picture ( from digital Dog.) through the default windows printer and it is nearly correct just slightly dark.

This would imply that some setting in qimage is affecting the brightness.

I recently tried another paper icm that I downloaded from Epson america which has a peculiar name E_FICM9YE.ICM

But it is dated 2004/11/29 so is fairly old. for premium glossy epson paper.

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Re: prints to dark

« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2018, 12:22:13 AM »

I'm not aware of any way to print using ICC profiles via file manager so you probably ended up doing something closer to "let printer manage colors". You can "associate" an ICC profile with the device (your R800) but that's not the same as actually using that profile outside the driver via full color management like Qimage, Affinity, Photoshop, Lightroom, and other ICC aware applications do.

Also keep in mind that any of those Epson profiles that you find that have cryptic names (they usually start with "E" followed by 6-8 random looking letters/numbers)... are not designed to be used outside the driver. They are specialized profiles that are meant only for use by the driver itself so you can't use those in a color managed application like Qimage, PhotoShop, LR, etc.

The newer Epson profiles (ones that come with more recent models) that are meant for use in color managed applications are more readable file names that start with something like "Epson_SP7900..." or "Epson Stylus Pro..." followed by the name of the paper.

Mike


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Fred A

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Re: prints to dark

« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2018, 08:02:53 AM »

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The newer Epson profiles (ones that come with more recent models) that are meant for use in color managed applications are more readable file names that start with something like "Epson_SP7900..." or "Epson Stylus Pro..." followed by the name of the paper.

This is what the correct profile looks like.

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