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Mike's Software => Profile Prism => Topic started by: Todd K. on June 09, 2011, 09:38:01 PM



Title: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Todd K. on June 09, 2011, 09:38:01 PM
Hi, I am considering profile prism and the colormunki?  Profile prism seems easier and cheaper, but is it as good? 


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Todd K. on June 10, 2011, 04:05:03 AM
Also, what scanners yield the best results in conjunction with Profile Prism 7?


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Terry-M on June 10, 2011, 08:44:03 AM
Hi Todd,
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Hi, I am considering profile prism and the colormunki?  Profile prism seems easier and cheaper, but is it as good?
There's a recent comment here:
http://ddisoftware.com/tech/printers/epson-r1900-ultra-premium-glossy-photo-paper-icc-profile/
The Colormunki is a complete calibration solution so if you already have a monitor calibration device you may not want to pay out again for that capability.
PP can produce excellent results and you can fine tune profiles.
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what scanners yield the best results in conjunction with Profile Prism 7?
As I remember, Canon Lide scanners give good results however Canon scanning software is not ideal so Vuescan is recommended. http://www.ddisoftware.com/prism/help/scanner.htm

Terry


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Todd K. on June 10, 2011, 02:04:11 PM
Thanks for reply. 
Is any LiDE scanner acceptable, are there particular modals that are recommended ?


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Terry-M on June 10, 2011, 04:24:53 PM
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Is any LiDE scanner acceptable, are there particular models that are recommended ?
I think any Lide is model ok.; apparently what makes it good is the fact it has an LED light source.
I don't have a Lide but an older Canon 8400F. I nearly abandoned it when I went to W7-64 bit last year, but thanks to the new 64 bit version of Vuescan, that enabled all the scanner features to work with the Canon 64 bit driver. I think Vuescan is essential with any Canon scanner unless their software has improved recently - you wont regret using Vuescan.
Terry


Title: IT WORKS!
Post by: Todd K. on September 05, 2011, 03:41:38 PM
So, I have been using bulk ink for years. After a while the ink separates in the refillable cartridges.  I guess after refilling for so long, and not agitating enough I messed up the pigment ratio in the ink.  The obvious fix is to just drain the cartridges and refill the them with fresh new ink.  I figured out that it would be cheaper to get profile prism and an Epson V300.  Tip for 4880 users.  Use sheet paper.  Roll paper will not print the little squares perfectly, so it is impossible to line the up.

To make a long story short. The color prints are great and the black and white prints are much better. 
I highly recommend Profile prism as an alternative to the color munki.  For your money its the cheapest way to get a decent profile on the market.


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: John H. on November 13, 2011, 01:29:08 PM
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I think any Lide is model ok.; apparently what makes it good is the fact it has an LED light source.
Terry


There are many scanners today that use white LED.  Is the Canon Lide better because it use 3 color LED?  Is any LED better than fluorescent?

John


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: Terry-M on November 13, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
John
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Is the Canon Lide better because it use 3 color LED?  Is any LED better than fluorescent?
Sorry, I can't answer that. One for Mike probably - he, I think recommends the Lide from his experience.
Terry


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: RMikula on November 18, 2011, 11:00:05 PM
Overall very good.

I purchased PP because I lost all my profiles for my Epson R320 when I switched to a new computer.  PP ultimately worked well however, it took a bit of work to get there.  My HP scanner only had brightness and contrast adjustments and I was getting far too many XXs on both the target and printer profile.  I ended up purchasing Vuescan for my scanner software.  The secret to getting this to work well was to use RAW files to feed profile prism.  With that said, the profiles for the Epson R320 (dye ink) were very good.  I then decided to do a profile for my Epson Stylus Photo R1800 (pigment) even though I already had Epson supplied profiles for my papers.  The profile I created using PP for the Epson Premium Glossy was better than what Epson supplied.  Surprisingly, the test prints from the R320 and R1800 matched up almost perfectly.

Overall it works well for printer profiling but there is a learning curve.

I also profiled my scanner with PP.  Using a RAW file, the messages back from PP were not encouraging.  Mike responded to my posts concerning this and implied that these messages were not surprising and that I should just use the data and the results shuld be good.  He was correct and the scanner profile seems to work fine.

Ray Mikula


Title: Re: How good is profile prism?
Post by: jwwbrennan on December 23, 2011, 11:47:48 AM
I use PP, VueScan, Epson V500, Qimage and Epson 3880 - the process is easy and excellent.

Now if I want something done poorly I have to work at it.