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Title: Profiling matte paper
Post by: Kefp on June 06, 2009, 07:28:51 AM
Hi, I have had good successes with profiling Kirkland glossy and Ilford premium pearl papers. For both of these, I only had a couple "X"s. However, with Staples Supreme Matte Double sided paper I get as much as 32 red "X"s. Is there a way to improve on this?

I use the scanner from canon MP970 and Vuescan. The ink is from Hobbicolors. I have done this a couple of times.


Title: Re: Profiling matte paper
Post by: Terry-M on June 06, 2009, 11:04:36 AM
I've attached some screen snaps of my PP results for Ilford Smooth Heavy Weight Matte, Epson R800 with Epson ink, for you to compare. I guess the paper is similar to yours.
The PP reports are actually quite good.
However, you can see on the printer target histogram particularly, that there is a gap at the LH end. This resulted in poor detail in dark shadows on prints. I assume my Canon 8400F scanner, with Vuescan, could not cope with the darker patches on this paper.

I did also buy a "professional" custom profile for this paper; it was better but shadow detail was still limited so I assume that's the limitation of this type of paper.
Did you try any prints with your profile?
(Click attachments to see full size)
Terry.


Title: Re: Profiling matte paper
Post by: admin on June 06, 2009, 01:54:58 PM
Hi, I have had good successes with profiling Kirkland glossy and Ilford premium pearl papers. For both of these, I only had a couple "X"s. However, with Staples Supreme Matte Double sided paper I get as much as 32 red "X"s. Is there a way to improve on this?

I use the scanner from canon MP970 and Vuescan. The ink is from Hobbicolors. I have done this a couple of times.

Where are the X's occurring?  If they occur on mostly white and very bright colors, your scanner may be overexposing.  If they occur on saturated colors like bright magenta, bright green, etc. your scanner my be oversaturating.  What scanner are you using and what software to acquire?

Mike


Title: Re: Profiling matte paper
Post by: Kefp on June 06, 2009, 03:57:40 PM

[/quote] Where are the X's occurring?  If they occur on mostly white and very bright colors, your scanner may be overexposing.  If they occur on saturated colors like bright magenta, bright green, etc. your scanner my be oversaturating.  What scanner are you using and what software to acquire?

Mike
[/quote]

Thank you both for a quick response. The X's are occurring mostly on the 1st line, more on the left hand side ie patch 0 onwards.
The scanner is Canon  MP970 (AIO). The software is Vuescan with settings as recommended.

I did make a print using the profile obtained. It's OK but lacks a bit of details.


Title: Re: Profiling matte paper
Post by: Seth on July 13, 2009, 03:06:01 PM
However, with Staples Supreme Matte Double sided paper I get as much as 32 red "X"s. Is there a way to improve on this?

For canned profiles, use Epson double sided-matte.  I use the same paper a lot with an EPson printer.  Adding Contrast 3, Gamma 2 and Blue+2 usually brings it right there.