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Author Topic: Color Mismatch and Dark prints on upgrade from Trial to Studio  (Read 62422 times)
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2009, 01:43:34 PM »

Hi Fred, thanks for the link. The way that printer drivers handle borderless printing seems to be a bit of a botch, imnsho, probably added as an afterthought, and the interface/settings seem illogical. You have to beat your head around what it wants to do, in order to get it to do what we want it to do.

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2009, 05:02:08 PM »

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he way that printer drivers handle borderless printing seems to be a bit of a botch, imnsho, probably added as an afterthought, and the interface/settings seem illogical.
I think most drivers use a similar technique for borderless.
Of course, you can disable the driver expansion in Qimage  Smiley but the increased printer resolution still appears in Qimage.

But this is all "fill-in" until Eljae gets back and tells us how he is getting on  Wink
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2009, 05:24:57 PM »

Hi Everyone,

I have some very encouraging results.

To Fred and Terry, I am very grateful to you both for your patience and expert advice.  Because of your help, I am now getting excellent prints.  Here is what I did to achieve the final results:

I began by creating a new custom ICC printer profile for the paper and ink I am using with the xRite ColorMunki.  I selected this profile in the Qimage Prtr ICC.

I recalled the new custom printer profile in the printer driver advanced window which quickly placed all the R1800 settings as follows: Premium Photo Paper Glossy, Best Photo, and the appropriate paper size is easily changed.  In the printer driver Advanced settings, Color Management ICM was selected , and OFF (No Color Management) was selected.

Flesh tones are now excellent.  Detail in both whites to blacks is now highly visable and contrast is excellent.

I am now anxious to compare my prints to the prints you are sending Fred.  I will keep updating as things happen.

Thank you, thank you, thank you Fred and Terry!!!

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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2009, 05:35:17 PM »

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I began by creating a new custom ICC printer profile for the paper and ink I am using with the xRite ColorMunki.

Judging by your comment above, do we conclude you were using the wrong profile or wrong paper and profile?
Regardless, happy you have some pleasant results.
The prints were mailed on Thursday morning, so I guessed at Mon or Tues you getting an envelope ...

Fred
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2009, 05:43:20 PM »

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I began by creating a new custom ICC printer profile for the paper and ink I am using with the xRite ColorMunki
Sounds like good stuff is coming from the ColorMunki. I'll be interesting to hear how other prints look from that profile with different images.
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To Fred and Terry, I am very grateful to you both for your patience and expert advice
Pleased to help, we don't like a mystery  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2009, 06:35:12 PM »

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I began by creating a new custom ICC printer profile for the paper and ink I am using with the xRite ColorMunki.

Judging by your comment above, do we conclude you were using the wrong profile or wrong paper and profile?
Regardless, happy you have some pleasant results.
The prints were mailed on Thursday morning, so I guessed at Mon or Tues you getting an envelope ...

Fred

Yes Fred, it was a combination of setting errors in Qimage and the printer driver, as well as the profiles that I downloaded from Epson being not great but just Ok.

Actually, after getting the settings correct but using the Epson downloaded profiles I made several prints and showed them to a few people.  They all had very good remarks about the pictures.  I suppose I am just much more critical.

But from your posts and Terry's posts I began to understand the flow of information from file to print.  So I went back to square one and built new custom profiles, followed you and Terry's instructions, and in the end what I got  was very "pleasant results", I would even go as far as to say "WOW what a difference "results.

I am anxious to see your prints though. 
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2009, 06:40:10 PM »

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I began by creating a new custom ICC printer profile for the paper and ink I am using with the xRite ColorMunki
Sounds like good stuff is coming from the ColorMunki. I'll be interesting to hear how other prints look from that profile with different images.
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To Fred and Terry, I am very grateful to you both for your patience and expert advice
Pleased to help, we don't like a mystery  Roll Eyes
Terry

I haven't always been a fan of the ColorMunki, because there were some software issues, but XRite sent several patches and I am satisfied with its performance, for the moment anyway.

Much thanks again to you and Fred.
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2009, 06:59:16 PM »

There is on small issue that I am facing.  I get a message that:

The current print range contains posters that have only a small strip that will be printed on some poster panels (less than an inch wide or tall).  If you intended to print a poster, you might want to double check your poster size to make sure that there is a benefit to printing this small "sliver" at the edge or bottom of your poster.  If you did not intend for your prints to cover more than one page, you should go back and reduce the size of your prints so that they do not exceed the printable area on one page (listed above the small preview page on the main window).
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2009, 07:14:08 PM »

It appears that setting "fit to page" in the Qimage print properties will remedy this issue.
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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2009, 07:15:34 PM »

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printing this small "sliver" at the edge or bottom of your poster.

Are you printing a poster?
Do you want your print to coverr multiple sheets of paper?
If not, Qimage is telling you that you are requesting a print size that is larger than the printable area of the paper.
The simplest way is to request fit to page.
Crop scissor on... and you will get the largest print that will fit.

Assuming that you got this message from Qimage and not color Munki Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2009, 10:43:23 PM »

Eljae-

Are you using the half-sheet profile sheet from xrite to read for making your profile or the full thing with the hundreds of colors?
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2009, 10:59:23 PM »

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Are you using the half-sheet profile sheet from xrite to read for making your profile or the full thing with the hundreds of colors?
ColorMunki has it's own special set of patches to print and scan. The patches are not even rectangular.
You can refine a profile by scanning an area of "real" print where the colours are not correct and the software will make a special set of patches, based on the scan, to refine the existing profile. Neat I thought, I have a friend who's got one.
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2009, 11:06:32 PM »

Hmmmm, maybe it IS worth the upgrade.  Not like they give you a trade-in though.
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2009, 01:11:35 AM »

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printing this small "sliver" at the edge or bottom of your poster.

Are you printing a poster?
Do you want your print to coverr multiple sheets of paper?
If not, Qimage is telling you that you are requesting a print size that is larger than the printable area of the paper.
The simplest way is to request fit to page.
Crop scissor on... and you will get the largest print that will fit.

Assuming that you got this message from Qimage and not color Munki Smiley
Fred

Thanks Fred.  Yes, it was from Qimage, not printing a poster, (I was attempting to print 5x7's, 8x10's and 13x19's)...and I did request fit to page with Crop scissor on to remedy the issue but I get a pretty wide border now.
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2009, 01:15:03 AM »

Eljae-

Are you using the half-sheet profile sheet from xrite to read for making your profile or the full thing with the hundreds of colors?

Just guessing, but there are 2 sheets with about 50 on each.
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