setting the right size

kieranmullen

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« on: March 15, 2011, 10:40:41 PM »

I have been a registered user for awhile but I am always dinking with the user defined sizes and thought I must be doing it wrong...

I go to printer properties and set a user defined paper size (even thought I am using a roll 24" wide. I also have borderless set in the printer driver.

I set it to 24.02 x 12.02 for 3 rows 4 columns of 4x6 photos. If I set the height to 12 then Qimage will take a row away, even though 4 inches high x 3 rows = 12 inches... so that is why I entered a slighly larger size. The custom size of 6x4 was entered,enter specific size was chosen, and auto cropping was off.

Then qimage says the size is now 23.997x11.997

1)If I am always using a 24" roll one would think there ought to be a better way to print graphics rather than defining a custom size every time. Is there a template that can be used that just allows me to add pictures to it and stop printing at the whitespace? This would eliminate the need for defining custom sizes all the time. Just select the photos, define the size of those photos, arrange and print.

2)If a custom size has to be defined all the time how is the height and width calculated for user defined paper in the printer driver if the finalpicture size is defined in qimage? Just add on .02 all the time?

3) based on the screenshots you can see that I did not have the crop option on, so why are the pictures being cropped? last image in set

http://imgur.com/a/gGgxQ

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Fred A

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Re: setting the right size

« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2011, 09:32:17 AM »

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I set it to 24.02 x 12.02 for 3 rows 4 columns of 4x6 photos. If I set the height to 12 then Qimage will take a row away, even though 4 inches high x 3 rows = 12 inches... so that is why I entered a slighly larger size. The custom size of 6x4 was entered,enter specific size was chosen, and auto cropping was off.

Then qimage says the size is now 23.997x11.997

1)If I am always using a 24" roll one would think there ought to be a better way to print graphics rather than defining a custom size every time. Is there a template that can be used that just allows me to add pictures to it and stop printing at the whitespace? This would eliminate the need for defining custom sizes all the time. Just select the photos, define the size of those photos, arrange and print.

2)If a custom size has to be defined all the time how is the height and width calculated for user defined paper in the printer driver if the finalpicture size is defined in qimage? Just add on .02 all the time?

3) based on the screenshots you can see that I did not have the crop option on, so why are the pictures being cropped? last image in set

So far I can repeat what you are doing, and it all appears to be done properly.
Qimage is reporting the printable area correctly too.
The only two places that I don't quite follow is (1) if you want 6 x 4 prints, you would need the crop scissors turned on. You are showing 5.95 x 4.00.
(2) Why did you need to go into CUSTOM to select 6 x 4 when there's a simple size button for that?

As for having to recreate the scene each time, simply SAVE as a JOB with a descriptive name, and RECALL whenever you want to use it. Then add your images...

See screen snaps..
Fred


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Terry-M

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Re: setting the right size

« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2011, 12:25:05 PM »

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I also have borderless set in the printer driver

You will find it helpful the watch the learning video "Paper Size and Printable Area" at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=gMzUxDP_JwM&vq=hd720
Note what it says about using borderless and how the driver affects the print size after the data has been sent by Qimage.
Full list of videos are here: http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/learn.htm. They are for Qimage Ultimate but still helpful for Q-SE.
Terry


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Fred A

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Re: setting the right size

« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2011, 12:42:12 PM »

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Note what it says about using borderless and how the driver affects the print size after the data has been sent by Qimage.

That video says it all. The gentleman should be able to handle the print job with that information.

Fred


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kieranmullen

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Re: setting the right size

« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2011, 02:38:41 PM »

Why would I want the crop sissors on? I dont want to crop anything I don't understand why for example if my paper is really 24" wide why I would have to set the printable area to 24.02?

The custom size was used to get the right orientation. it tried the templat initally but they were oriented 4 wide and 6 high

Quote from: Fred A on March 16, 2011, 09:32:17 AM


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Terry-M

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Re: setting the right size

« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2011, 03:59:25 PM »

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Why would I want the crop scissors on?

To get the exact size. Read the Help on "Cropping" in the listing of major functions. It sounds as though your image is not exactly in the 3:2 ratio of a 6x4 print.
The final paragraph in the Help says:
"Note that when "Crop to Size" is turned on (scissors button depressed), you have given Qimage permission to crop some of the image to force it to fill the entire frame." This does not affect the image, just the print.

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I don't understand why for example if my paper is really 24" wide why I would have to set the printable area to 24.02?

Qimage reports exactly what the driver tells it. When you originally specified 24" and you saw a smaller figure in Qimage, that's the driver saying that's it, not Qimage. It seems that it is not possible to use the full 24" with your printer, even with borderless set. I assume must be a physical limitation of the printer.
I don't think you said which model printer you are using. Fred has a number of drivers installed so could possible check in detail.
Have you looked at the video? Using borderless will give you incorrect print sizes due to the expansion effect of the driver. You might try turning off expansion using the Qimage function. I've not got Q-SE loaded any more so you'll have to explore the menus to find it. Please watch the video!
Terry


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