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rayw
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« on: November 24, 2009, 04:18:57 PM »

Hi,

I've asked Mike to include an option to print crop and fold lines in the borders, which are useful for lining up the prints when making a canvas wrap.

However, in the meantime, I am using the following method, which may be of use. At the moment I am concerned with getting as large a print as possible, so it will be centred on the page.

1)load in image to Qimage, press insert twice so that you have three copies of the original image.
2)In the full page editor,  select one of the three images, make it as small as possible, (try for 1mm square) and centre it.
3)Select another image, resize it to the required print size, add borders as necessary, and centre it.
4)select the third image, resize it to the required print size, and centre it.
5)Select 'mark edges of print'-'guidelines' then the fold and centre lines are produced, the centre lines will be a pair of closely spaced parallel lines.

As I often want to blur the border, then the image produced in step 3) above, is saved as a different name, since filters seem to effect all images with the same name, not just the one instance of the image on the page. Before you print, check the images are stacked correctly. If you don't want the fold line, or modified borders, then no need to use the third image.

Best wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2009, 05:32:13 PM »

Thanks Ray,
It sounds complicated but I understand what you are doing.  Smiley
A screen shot of the FPE would be nice.
One thing you didn't mention is to make sure each image is at the correct level, one behind the other.
Your next job is to make a template so in future all you a have to do is load the image 3 times - I think that will work.
Actually, everything can remain as a template, except the real image with the wrap border and, when used, the one with the blurred image.  Cool
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2009, 05:49:04 PM »

Hi Terry,

Although I've had Qimage for a few years, it is relatively recently that I've been trying to use it. I know nothing about templates. If done in the sequence I mentioned, the images do stack correctly, but I mentioned to check that before printing. it is easy to mess it up a bit, by selecting the wrong image, or subtracting instead of adding borders (this was partly my reason in some other thread for asking for a separate window for preparing just the canvas wrap stuff). We don't want to make it too easy, however, else Mike may not add in the requested guide lines  Roll Eyes

Best wishes,

Ray

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2009, 05:55:36 PM »

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I know nothing about templates.
Templates are a powerful tool. Basically, you design a page (or multiple pages) using the "template" image that is at the end of the thumbnails in a folder. Treat that just as you would an image on a page, then save as a Layout and use from Custom - Layout.
It's worth getting to know how to use this feature.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2009, 07:46:30 PM »

Hi Terry,

Thanks for the suggestion. I'll give it a try, and let you know.

Best wishes,
Ray
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2009, 10:23:28 PM »

Hi Terry,

You try the template idea, please. I've tried it made the three images, centred, resized, etc. saved as template and as a layout, but when I reload either and drop in the images, they do not resize equally. (by that I mean the small image is OK, but the other two, with border, and without the border, are different size and aspect ratio).  Roll Eyes If you can get it to work, let me know.

In reality, unless you are doing a number of same size prints, and same size borders from same size originals, a template will not save that much time, imnsho.

Best wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2009, 10:29:50 PM »

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You try the template idea, please
Ok. I'll have ago but I need a day or two, it's a busy life being retired.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 03:11:31 AM »

I'm not so sure its actually busy, just seem to spend more time deciding what to do tomorrow, instead of doing it today. And, it depends more on the weather, too. ;-)
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 10:36:22 AM »

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I'm not so sure its actually busy, just seem to spend more time deciding what to do tomorrow, instead of doing it today
...or in my case, trying to remember what I did today?  Shocked
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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2009, 03:56:00 PM »

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Just to remind readers, this was Ray's way of getting extra cutting guide lines for mirror (or stretch) border prints.
I suggested using a template for repeat jobs.

OK., I have done it, see attached.

Image 1: the template in the Full Page Editor
The dot in the middle is the 1 x 1 mm template selected but note it is at the back. This gives the twin centre lines

Image 2: the Template queue
3 templates, the middle largest one has the mirror border. This gives the guidelines for the outer edge of the complete print with border.
The last one is at the image size and give the guide line for the first fold over the frame.

Image 3: the print queue
Note it is not necessary  to load a 1 x 1mm image into the template.
The second image is the one with the border
The third is identical without the border.

The next post will show a Print Preview with all the guideline, tbc ....
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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2009, 04:01:34 PM »

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The next post will show a Print Preview with all the guideline, tbc ...
continued from reply #9
See attached, a print preview with all the guide lines.
The second image in the queue with the mirror border is blurred and faded (similar to what Ray does sometimes) to show the mirror border more clearly.
NB. when loading the template, it was easier to drag thumbs to the queue list under the thumb area.
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2009, 09:23:58 PM »

Hi Terry,

Thanks for showing that it can be done. Now to see If I can do it  Roll Eyes

Best wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2009, 09:59:45 PM »

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Now to see If I can do it
Best of luck.
If it's any help, I'll try to attach my template file here. (EDIT - yes looks ok)
It's called "Mirror & GL.tpl"
Download & copy to the Qimage save folder.
You may want to edit this one, it's based on A4 paper but that should not matter. Don't forget it sets Freehand mode so you need to make sure all 3 elements are centred in the Full Page Editor.

PS. It's a pity this was not posted in the Qimage section so that non Studio users could gain benefit too, for next time.
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2009, 10:46:14 PM »

Hi Terry,

Nothing wrong with putting something in 'non studio' section, but I thought the canvas wrap was only available in the studio edition. Thanks for the file, I'm about to install, (testing, testing, 1-2-3  Cheesy )

Best Wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2009, 10:55:09 PM »

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but I thought the canvas wrap was only available in the studio edition
You are correct, whoops  Shocked
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