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Author Topic: CHALLENGE 61 (Vanish into AREA 51)  (Read 13080 times)
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« on: April 22, 2016, 06:47:44 PM »

                                                                                                          Make me disappear
Mike's latest addition to Qimage Ultimate is VANISH.
It is as huge as Deep Focus sharpening was which virtually eliminated Unsharp Mask.
So, as you had to learn to administer a different dose of sharpening with Deep Focus Sharpening after using USM, so you need to learn to work with Vanish and be able to replicate the background fill many times better than a clone tool.
Here I am a very old man with no hair, failing eyes, shaky hands, one deaf ear, false teeth, and afraid to buy green bananas; and I can do it.
So can you.
See the video. Remember to go full screen with HD
You can pause the video at any time to get a better look at the images.

https://youtu.be/iHFQNZcrF8w

Let's see some of your attempts...
Have fun and enjoy..

Fred


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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 06:40:17 PM »

I've been practicing with Vanish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT3sU42KBdE&feature=youtu.be

(Also making videos with MS Movie Maker!)

Go to full screen with HD

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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 07:29:23 AM »

You are all a lot better at Vanishing than I am.

Had a couple of short sessions and more to come.

I got on a lot better after Mikes video it cleared up some miss conceptions I had.

Looking at my image records it is not that easy to find images that are worth the bother of detail fiddling.

I do try to avoid things like refuse bins and wires and appear to have been largely successful.

I picked one yesterday but it was far to complicated for my Vanish capabilities and had to resort to ACDSee which I am exploring.

Terry, the thatched cottage, I think you missed the TV aerial!

Jeff

 

 
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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 10:26:53 AM »

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Terry, the thatched cottage, I think you missed the TV aerial!
That was the deliberate mistake to check if you (and others) were paying attention!  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 10:37:34 AM »

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That was the deliberate mistake to check if you (and others) were paying attention!  Grin
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Really?
I have a bridge for sale located in Brooklyn, N.Y
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2016, 09:34:16 AM »

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You are all a lot better at Vanishing than I am.

Had a couple of short sessions and more to come.

I purposely took this shot yesterday in  order to have a tough one to practice on.

This is a tool and a toy. Practice to gain ability to Vanish, and play with it for fun like Terry did with his vanishing dog.

Fred
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2016, 01:56:01 PM »

It's a great tool and certainly saves going outside to the image editor in a lot of cases.  However I've noticed the same problem as is evident in some of the images which you and Terry have worked on, particularly where the background is sharp.  The "cloned" area is always softer (and as Mike's video states, gets softer the more vanishes are performed).

Would it be possible to sharpen up the vanishing tool, or even have "hardness" options as in cloning tools?

Regards,

Glenn
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2016, 03:47:30 PM »

Challenge accepted.  Here's mine.  Wink

The trick to getting the right sharpness is to go a little larger on the radius and stop at a point where the detail inside matches the detail outside.  When I see soft vanishes, I can almost always get them sharper by using a larger radius, often combined with a mask.  Because vanish is like a black hole and sucks everything from around it inward, sharpness can appear to decrease as you approach the "singularity" at the center.  That's just because the information is being "reduced" in size.  Also, when you want sharper results, use masks first: masks turn off the blending at the edges and masks also allow you to start your vanish outside the mask so that the information carried inside is not "squashed" but rather pushed into the mask!  Check out my sample of Fred's wires.  Clicking and dropping masks on the line in the trees first helped me keep the sharpness inside the vanishes.  It only takes a few extra minutes to lay down the masks because you can drag one to establish a mask size that goes a little beyond the edge of the wire and then just single click all the way across, repeating that diameter.

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Mike

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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2016, 05:22:19 PM »

Thanks for the advice Mike - I'll keep practicing!

Regards,
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2016, 07:53:25 AM »

OK here is my effort.

Not good in the tree area.

Change MO half way,  Masking to direct vanish.  Vanish was the easier.

I will not throw away the chain saw for removing poles and a tree lopper for removing wires just yet.

Must now give up for the day, packing suitcases and then visit to South of County for Architectural study.

It's all go up here in rural Lincolnshire.

Jeff

 
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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2016, 08:02:06 AM »

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Must now give up for the day, packing suitcases and then visit to South of County for Architectural study
Do you mean Lincoln prison! Come back soon  Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2016, 07:13:32 AM »

Fred & Terry

Thanks for sharing the videos

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2016, 11:56:16 AM »

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This is a tool and a toy. Practice to gain ability to Vanish, and play with it for fun like Terry did with his vanishing dog.

I took this shot of a nice lass from Ireland who was vacationing in Florida.
Her mother saw the picture  and insisted that she stop smoking.
So I fixed it to make her mother happy.

Fred
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