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Author Topic: Additions to Flash Card Copy/Move function.  (Read 11005 times)
BrianT
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« on: March 13, 2013, 09:19:12 AM »

I have used QI & Ultimate for about ten years and love it.
My part time pursuit is photographing amateur musical productions where a dress rehearsal will typically yield 300+ shots. As soon as I get home I download the images from the camera via QI then I open either PhotoImpact, PsE, Paint or GIMP and the grind begins.

What I want is a fast way of tagging images, within QI, into several classes.  I would like to see a new capability within the "Flash card copy/move" function so that once all the images are off the camera and have been renamed by QI to the date/time format, I can quickly view them and click a box on each image to tag the 'keepers', maybe's and dross.  The entire card contents would remain in the original file for safety but several new sub files would be created with the best, maybe's, unlikely, dross, etc images.  That way I can quickly rank the photos before I start adjusting the images in GIMP, PsE, or whatever image manipulator is flavour of the month.  I can see travellers using function to tag their files with location key words as well.

Is this likely to appear within QI any time soon?

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Brian
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 10:16:25 AM »

Hi Brian,
Welcome to the forum.
There are already features in QU which allow you to "tag" images and still keep them in the same folder.
The first is the "Rating feature" and once rated, the thumbs can be sorted according to rating.
To do a review of a whole batch of images, I suggest all thumbs are selected (use the ..a.. button above history bar) and then Preview with the P+ button. See attached screen shot.
The preview allows to to rate the image. Ratings can be added/edited by a right click on a thumb in the image editor and raw refine screen.

The second is to use the "Album" feature, accessed by a right on a thumb or selection of thumbs and also with the book icon above the history bar - see attached screen shot.
Again you could use the Preview feature described above and instead of rating (or both), click "Select this image" at the bottom of the window. Once you have finished selecting, close the Preview window, right click over any selected thumb and choose "Add to Album". The rest is straight forward.
The images in an album remain in their original folder but are viewed separately. An album can contain images from multiple folders.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 12:03:12 AM »

Thanks Terry.  I tried the album and Rating system years ago but gave up as these are internal to QI/QU.  I could not see how to select/tag the images in QI then log out of QI and then load just the high raters into PsE.

I want duplicates to be made of all the keepers and to have them placed in a standard Windows format directory that I can then access with whatever image manipulation program.

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Brian 
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 08:03:30 AM »

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I want duplicates to be made of all the keepers and to have them placed in a standard Windows format directory that I can then access with whatever image manipulation program.
Surely that's easy!
Use either the QU rating system or an album and then copy the selected keepers to a new directory from QU - select thumbs, right click and copy.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 02:10:40 AM »

Thanks Terry,

Your methods work.
I think there might be a faster way. 
I found I can just drag the keepers to the queue, select all, copy images, create relevant directory, copy.

I don't know why I was blind to this.  Thanks for opening my eyes.

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Brian
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 08:36:37 AM »

Hi Brian,
I'm pleased that you have got that one sorted.
Depending in what you do in your external editor, you may find other things that QU can do without you having to go "outside". QU does have an excellent image editor with great features such as TTS and deep focus sharpening.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 10:46:12 PM »

Wow,
My understanding of QU was way out of date. 
Over 10+ years the features have crept in and I have said to my self - "yeah - know about that" or  "I'll read up on that later" and I have missed the great and expanded features.  All I was doing with QU was importing from the memory card with change to date naming and printing the final result.

I spent all day RTFM and today I am working this latest show (Pirates of Penzance) completely within QU.

Thanks
Brian
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2013, 09:20:10 AM »

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I spent all day RTFM and today I am working this latest show (Pirates of Penzance) completely within QU.

Hope you check the videos like this  http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=AiVoXcB1uzk&vq=hd1080

at this site  http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-u/learn.htm

and enjoy!

You will be so happy you re-tried Qimage. You made a good point. Sometimes all the good stuff Mike keeps adding sort of creeps up and surprises us.
.. and when Mike releases a version with some good stuff,  he so understates the new features, that we miss it.

Fred

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2013, 06:52:02 PM »

Brian was doing Pirates of Penzance. I have Calendar Girls to shoot tomorrow!

I have used BreezeBrowser to make my selections. The reason being that it is mega-fast and I can get cracking immediately the files are on my PC. I only pass the 'keepers' over to QU as it needs a coffee break (on my PC anyway) to do its RAW caches.

I'll try Fred's suggestion of doing the rating within QU on Monday. Just that I'll need two coffees whilst the caches are built.

I then have to move them into black and white. Brian will appreciate the niceties of that when it comes to servicing amdram. It'll be interesting to see how Mike's b&w filters cope.

Tony
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2013, 11:10:44 PM »

My two cents worth.  The flash card copy is one of the few Qimage functions that I don't sue for similar but slightly different reasons.  I don't delete images from the flashcard after they are copied to the hard drive (wont bother to explain why) so I almost never want to copy the entire flashcard.  I would need some simple method of selecting the images to copy.

Mel W - Columbia Md.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 05:00:05 AM »

I tried QU for Rating images.  When I was done I exited QU and opened the directory where the latest images were stored with PsE 6.  None of them had an externally viewable tag indicating their rating.

What did work was outlined above to create a new file of keepers using the queue then copy images to a new file.

I also tried cropping as I passed the keepers into the queue.  The glue let go unfortunately and the crop information was lost in the saved images.

So my current workflow is:-
Copy images from memory card to folder named after the shooting date.
View all images as large thumbnails.  Add keepers to the queue and delete the duds.
Open a photo manipulation program. 
Crop and adjust exposure, sometimes adjust white balance.
Zoom to get desired image size.
Save the real keepers, drop the not so goods.
Return to QU for printing.

I would like to do all this within QU but I need a way to crop, adjust exposure and zoom.  The zoom is to get all the cast to have the same head size in the program and on the foyer wall.  This is not needed for general stage shots but it is when shooting the portraits over several days where my best guess at the appropriate zoom can be way off due to bouffant hair, etc.

Cheers
Brian
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 07:38:30 AM »

Brian,
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I would like to do all this within QU but I need a way to crop, adjust exposure and zoom.
But you can do all this in QU!
"Zoom" is the same as crop in effect and QU has 2 types of crop: image crop and print crop.
You may find Print crop more to your liking as there is a zoom slider.
With images in the queue,see to the print size required and the crop scissors on, open the page editor and click the crop tab. See the screen shots below.
The red lines on the first shot show the crop from a 3:2 image to a 4:3 ratio. The second shot shows the crop zoomed in; the crop position can be adjusted by dragging or opening the precision crop (magnifier + icon).
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... and adjust exposure, sometimes adjust white balance.
This can be done too in the image editor - all adjustments are non-destructive and no additional adjusted images need be saved because the adjustments are saved as a filter file with the image. Double click the thumbnail to open the editor for an individual image, or, with images in the queue, double click the first one on the page preview to open the "batch" editor and work through the queue images.
Nothing could be easier  Wink
Edit:
Here is the learning Video on Print cropping, it explains in detail what I said above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=pgHp45B1QXo&vq=hd720
and here is the video on basic editing that covers all you need:
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=I3Eu2JLbTwo&vq=hd720
Terry
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