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« on: February 26, 2011, 04:48:39 PM »

I have created a © sig viz ©EJ Digital on the blank qimage copyright sample mask and established that the mark is carried forward when creating web/email and tiff copies.
OK looks fine.

But, has Qimage embedded the mark in the file? or could some mean sod cut off say top of image where the mark is and get rid of it?

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 08:03:42 PM »

Hi Jeff,
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But, has Qimage embedded the mark in the file? or could some mean sod cut off say top of image where the mark is and get rid of it?
I would think so. I assume you did this with a Qimage Cutout; initially it is a filter but when new images are made, the signature becomes part of the image and not "embedded" in the file as such.
You could edit the exif data and add your copyright but that could be be removed again too. I don't know if it's possible to lock the exif data.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2011, 08:13:53 AM »

Hello

That's what what I thought, I have/are trying out four watermarking progs.  only one inserts a user defined code of some sort in the image. the rest just do what QU does but a lot more trouble and long winded.

I am just messing about improving my 'knowledge' I doubt if any one would bother to pinch my images Smiley

I will have another go at the code inserting and report back, you never know if could be of interest to others.

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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2011, 03:29:40 PM »

Jeff-

Unless you are making a lot of money with your images which you want to protect, enforcing a copyright would probably cost more than it's worth, unless you know a lawyer who works free.

You do have some very nice images, just consider it flattery if someone copies them.

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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2011, 05:06:16 PM »

Jeff-

Unless you are making a lot of money with your images which you want to protect, enforcing a copyright would probably cost more than it's worth, unless you know a lawyer who works free.

You do have some very nice images, just consider it flattery if someone copies them.

Jeff Jessee
 

Quite!  I am just messing about increasing my pitiful knowledge.  I have ended up with four progs on test, some very prof. looking results.  Could get the same direct from QUlt if I was better at image creation in PSElements.

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2011, 05:22:09 PM »

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But, has Qimage embedded the mark in the file? or could some mean sod cut off say top of image where the mark is and get rid of it?

Jeff,
If I apply a logo to my raw file, and then Create a JPG from the Raw, it appears the logo/copyright is embedded in the JPG.
If there's more to your question, please clarify.
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Copyright is small, but it is there. Lower Right.

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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 05:30:13 PM »

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See snap
Well, that's a copyright infringement for a start, now where is my lawyers phone number ....   Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 05:32:16 PM »

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Well, that's a copyright infringement for a start, now where is my lawyers phone number ....   Shocked

Looks more like Identity Theft.

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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 05:47:50 PM »

Jeff
Do it this way, and you will have no problem with "pinching" your images
Besides his mother, my grandmother, who would want a print of that!?


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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 09:25:55 PM »

less than a minute to remove watermarks, and add your own, if you wanted to, maybe a bit longer to tidy it up.

http://www.yertiz.com/pic0608/fred%27s%20dad.jpg

If you don't want stuff copied, don't show it anywhere on the web, or in any digital format, I guess.

Best wishes,

Ray

PS - I've removed the edited image - I didn't want to get into an argument about 'fair usage', etc, in demonstrating the ease of removing copyright information from a copyrighted image Cheesy
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 08:28:26 AM »

Jeff
Do it this way, and you will have no problem with "pinching" your images
Besides his mother, my grandmother, who would want a print of that!?


Fred

Now Now, there's no need to get nasty,  it's a very desirable pic of tree bark Smiley

What got me thinking on © was over a year ago (it takes me that long to think) we had a camera club lecture and lecturer mentioned that he had had a pic. pinched.
He was walking down the road and there was a chap with a tee shirt with a print on front, and he realized it was one of his pics.
He had put it on a online site, Flicker or some such, it had been pinched and sold on to the tee shirt firm as legit.  He - the lecturer had embedded in the image file a code and was able to prove it was his copyright, and got paid for the image.

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 10:01:22 AM »

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Now Now, there's no need to get nasty,  it's a very desirable pic of tree bark
You mean the distinguished wrinkles of experience  Grin
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What got me thinking on © was over a year ago (it takes me that long to think) we had a camera club lecture and lecturer mentioned that he had had a pic. pinched
That was a chance in a million! I did some searching and could not find anything you could do to code an image other than add something to the exif data with an editor.
Perhaps you could get hold of that guy again ad ask how he did it.
I have a few 1000 images on PBase, most are only 800 or so pixels so not much use for anyone else to use therefore I do not worry about it.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 04:28:40 PM »

Not sure if this is any good, but I know someone from a few years back who used this or similar and recovered copyright fees from an errant  publisher - http://www.tineye.com/
There is also software which will encode a unique number into the image itself, and the number is apparently is recoverable even with extreme third party editing.  I've had demo versions before, maybe someone else can search it out. However, that is only of use once you've found a copy.

Talking of copyright, in another thread wrt printing to cd's, it was mentioned about folk putting up copies of the cd covers, and others downloading and printing their own covers from those images, if I read it correctly. That is most likely infringing copyright, too. It seems to be, if it is easy to do, we steal stuff, or if we are unlikely to be caught, we steal stuff - but we don't want our stuff stolen. Of course, another view is that we weren't going to buy it anyway, so it's cost the owner nothing for us to steal it, and lots of other excuses too. It's just human nature, I guess.

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Ray
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2011, 01:58:57 AM »

  I have a few 1000 images on PBase, most are only 800 or so pixels so not much use for anyone else to use therefore I do not worry about it.
Terry



That is precisely how to protect yourself.Never upload more than a basic file for viewing and there isn't much anyone can do with it!
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2011, 12:06:13 PM »

'That is precisely how to protect yourself.Never upload more than a basic file for viewing and there isn't much anyone can do with it!'

Provided they don't have access to the resizing algorithms in Qimage Cheesy
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