Is there a way to click between perceptual and relative rendering intent and see how each affects the soft-proofed image without going to the ICC profile and changing it there? Lightroom has this feature and it's a great way to quickly pick the rendering intent that works best for a specific image/paper combination.

Thanks.

I never thought of Lightroom as a benchmark for colour management matters - you cannot even print a calibration target in LR because colour management cannot be turned off. Unless they have changed that "feature" in recent months.
Fred said:
You can use this QU feature to print images using the same profile with different rendering intents at the same time either on the same page or multiple pages.

Terry

Hi,
I think it's because softproofing depends on the quailty of both the printer and monitor profiles. There are 2 lots of conversions taking place, rather than just one when actually printing, so there can be two sets of errors that are compounded.
I have professionally made custom profiles and re-calibrate my Eizo monitor every month or so, yet still see differences in contrast between the softproof screen and the finished print, especially with matte paper. The print is much better.
I thought the video was informative, especially on the subject of understanding gamut and the fact that profiling and colour management deals with that. I was surprised to see the guy using a laptop, presumably for the tutorial only. I doubt that even Mac laptop screens come anywhere near the quality of a "proper" monitor.
Terry

I guess since I have Lghtroom I could just go to the soft-proof page and do the compare then set Qimage to the one I liked best in Lightroom. Or not :-D

Thanks, you both always take the time to respond with detailed answers. Much appreciated.

I am not convinced either that a softproof can replace test prints when it gets critical; reproduction of originals as an example, and QU has that nice test print feature already mentioned by Fred. It would however be more convenient if the user can set other rendering intents, BPC and even other printer profiles within the softproof window. Or an option where you have the same image twice in Best Shot Selector with a choice of softproof per image.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots

Done that with very different printer profiles, one for newspaper and one for Ilford Satin RC paper (and numeral other different printer profiles + rendering choices) and I do not see color differences between both representations of the image. In Photoshop I can see it clearly between an image + a copy if I give them different renderings or printer profiles or profiles. My conclusion so far is that Comparator does not show those different renderings of images in the queue, in short either picks up the general printer profile setting for both or has no CM. Your suggestion is alright but should get suitable color management then.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots

Terry,

Let us summarize; two color management renderings of the same image next to one another is possible in print but not on the monitor, in other words not as softproofs. One image is possible in softproof but in the softproof window no changes of rendering or profile can be made.  Your suggestion to use the print queue is a nice one but needs color management in the Comparator, Softproof is no selectable feature there. Is that correct?

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots

Right.  It's the fact that QU is 100% color managed (down to the thumbnails) that it won't work.  Whatever profile is associated with the image itself will be used to profile to your monitor's color space.  So even if you convert an image from one color space to another, they will look the same in the comparator (minus any out-of-gamut colors) because QU will be displaying that image in your monitor's color space (profile).

BUT... it can be done.  Using Terry's suggestion where you use custom color management settings for the print, put two prints on the page and set the custom color management settings for each print.  Set the size of the print so that both prints take up about half the page (they are as large as possible on the page for easier viewing).  Then go to the full page editor and click the "Soft Proof" button.  You'll then see a soft proof of both prints on the same page, under the different profiles/intents.  IMO, that's even better than side-by-side because you get to see what the soft proofs look like on the paper-white.

Just to restate what has already been pointed out, it'd be best to print that page and look at it rather than just using the soft proof.  Your monitor can't render all the colors from your printer, and your printer can't render all the colors from your monitor and both of those are required for an accurate soft proof.  Meaning that just going by the soft proof can really lead you astray if that's all you use.

Mike