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silviuvlt
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« on: April 19, 2011, 04:41:18 PM »

Hello !

I am currently running the trial version of QI Ultimate.

In the near future I will be starting my own print shop and I was wondering if QI's license allows business use ?

The only minor problems are related to productivity:
- I tried to print a file made in Corel by a friend who saved it as a CMYK jpg and it only worked after saving it to RGB.
- some of my future cusomers want to print single-page/multi-page PDF files; it would be nice if this file type was supported  Grin
- in the job properties, printer ICC, I would find it more pleasing to have the "OFF" and "Let driver/printer manage" as buttons next to the drop-down, and in the drop-down to find my instaled profiles (or a selection of profiles).

The software is very good and after 10 minutes I've come to appreciate it. Thank you !
Silviu
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 05:11:23 PM »

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I tried to print a file made in Corel by a friend who saved it as a CMYK jpg and it only worked after saving it to RGB.
- some of my future cusomers want to print single-page/multi-page PDF files; it would be nice if this file type was supported  Grin
- in the job properties, printer ICC, I would find it more pleasing to have the "OFF" and "Let driver/printer manage" as buttons next to the drop-down, and in the drop-down to find my instaled profiles (or a selection of profiles).

Trying to cover your questions,  OFF and let Driver manage color  and installed profile are easily accessible by clicking the little arrow at the right of the text box.
If you find that you need to change these settings very often, you would be better served to create and save as many printer setups as you need, and recall instantly.

PDF files have been batted around every so often, and even though they have a valuable use and purpose, they are not deemed photo quality.


Business use is fine for Qimage. If you have multiple computers with employees sitting at them, you might want to contact the author, Mike Chaney, (See Tech Support on web page) and ask about multi user licensing.

Hope some of this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2011, 08:27:46 PM »

Hello !

I am currently running the trial version of QI Ultimate.

In the near future I will be starting my own print shop and I was wondering if QI's license allows business use ?

The only minor problems are related to productivity:
- I tried to print a file made in Corel by a friend who saved it as a CMYK jpg and it only worked after saving it to RGB.
- some of my future cusomers want to print single-page/multi-page PDF files; it would be nice if this file type was supported  Grin
- in the job properties, printer ICC, I would find it more pleasing to have the "OFF" and "Let driver/printer manage" as buttons next to the drop-down, and in the drop-down to find my instaled profiles (or a selection of profiles).

The software is very good and after 10 minutes I've come to appreciate it. Thank you !
Silviu

I have not tried it yet but I suspect that if you download and install PDFCreator (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/) you could 'print' to its driver and so create a PDF. Set up the PDFCreator driver according to the resolution, page size etc you require.

I'll test it later.

Peter

Later: Tested it and works fine with excellent on screen images within the PDF.

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 01:06:21 AM »

 PDF files have been batted around every so often, and even though they have a valuable use and purpose, they are not deemed photo quality.Fred

Hey Fred,
don't mean to hijack this thread but I have a related question. Last week I had an artist ask me if I could print from PDF's  since her former printer required her to submit PDFs.
If they are not deemed photo quality why do they request them?

The canvas they produced of her art was very good in a 24x 30 size...hmm

David
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 09:55:32 AM »

Hi David,
I don't know the technical answer to the question, but I remember Mike telling us that they were not considered photo quality.
I have a PDF printing program, and I agree, they sure don't look bad.
We will have to wait for Mike, or perhaps someone has a better memory than I, and can recall Mike's explanation.

Fred
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 03:20:54 PM »

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Later: Tested it and works fine with excellent on screen images within the PDF
I actually used that method to demonstrate Qimage to a photo club using PDFcreator to simulate printing on screen rather than use a real printer.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 03:34:03 PM »

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or perhaps someone has a better memory than I, and can recall Mike's explanation
Remember PDF = portable document format , it's not an image format and can be used for text and images. You may then ask why Qimage does not print Word or Open Office documents.  Roll Eyes
I always regard pdf as a secondary format, create a document in, say, Word, and then convert for portability reasons.

For printing images, a photographic lab would be more suitable I would have thought. It surprises me that conventional printers cannot handle standard image formats.
David, surely your friend has, in the first place, an image of the art work then you and Qimage would do an even better job  Grin.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 03:56:32 PM »

For David,
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don't mean to hijack this thread but I have a related question. Last week I had an artist ask me if I could print from PDF's
I had a brainwave  Shocked
I have a desktop publishing program (Serif Page Plus) which will open pdf file so you can edit them. It also is able to export its documents as images.
I made a pdf with Qimage Ulimate using PDFcreator and then opened the pdf in the DTP program. Next, I exported it as a tif image so QU could print it.
I used this method recently when I designed some business cards in the DTP program, exported to an image to print with QU.
Depending on the DTP program, colour management may be a bit tricky. My program applied my monitor profile so I had to override that with a QU filter. Page Plus is a "budget" DTP program!
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2011, 07:26:56 PM »

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Hey Fred,
don't mean to hijack this thread but I have a related question. Last week I had an artist ask me if I could print from PDF's  since her former printer required her to submit PDFs.
If they are not deemed photo quality why do they request them?

I just had a look at Coreldraw.
It Imported a PDF, and EXPORTED it in any image file format I desire.
So that would be another way to go.

Fred
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2011, 11:47:34 PM »

I think the quickest/cheapest way of converting pdf files is using IrfanView. you can possibly run it as a batch, and convert the whole document to tifs or jpegs or whatever image format takes your fancy. If you already have Adobe photoshop, then probably best to use that, since some pdf fonts can give problems with some pdf conversion programs. The quality of a pdf image depends on the settings in the software that is used to generate the pdf file. In general, Acrobat, for example, will try to compress the images to produce a small file, but you can increase the dpi, turn off compression, and produce a good quality image, but a in a very large file  Sad.

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Ray
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2011, 12:14:53 AM »

I just discovered that Bridge will in fact open and also create PDFs.
As long as the PDF is not 'protected' with a password it can be passed on and opened in CS5.
 
I really had no intention of printing from PDFs, but had been asked if I could .
I still don't understand why a printer would request a PDF rather than a Tiff,PSD or even a SRGB Jpeg.
Her art was more graphic in appearance than photographic with fine detail, so that could be why the repro was so good
I guess at some point I may have an experience with my artist and will have to convert her file to a Tiff and experiment in QI
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 12:32:00 PM »

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I still don't understand why a printer would request a PDF rather than a Tiff,PSD or even a SRGB Jpeg.
Because that's what conventional printers do I think, they are not geared up for images.
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I guess at some point I may have an experience with my artist and will have to convert her file to a Tiff and experiment in QI
How is your artist making the file in the first place? If it's with graphics software, the artist can export as an image in the first place.
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