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Title: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on August 31, 2014, 01:04:53 AM
I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

I returned from vacation and the trial had expired. I paid for the full version and installed it and now the 11/17 portrait prints are being printed in landscape mode and I am wasting a great deal of paper.

Can anyone please help?

My wallet thanks you ................ lol

Thanks,
Mike


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: hkoons on August 31, 2014, 02:42:16 AM
I feel for you.  I seem to have a similar problem.  Four 5x7 images in Landscape orientation on a 24" roll keeps coming out as portrait with a lot of wasted paper.  Hopefully we'll find a solution.
howard


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on August 31, 2014, 09:18:46 AM
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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

I returned from vacation and the trial had expired. I paid for the full version and installed it and now the 11/17 portrait prints are being printed in landscape mode and I am wasting a great deal of paper.

Can anyone please help?

Sure!
Hi Mike,
Welcome.

We need some more information on your page size. If it's too large, Qimage will try to save paper by turning your image around.
You can correct it by either locking the rotation using the "padlock", manually positioning, or make the page size more reasonable.

See the attached screen snaps.
130 shows what you are trying to achieve (I assume).
131 shows the same page, but it has been rotated... if that's what you see, click the little button below the images to rotate teh page.
132 shows what a too large pr incorrect page size will do.  I think that might be what you are seeing??
The page size was 24.02 x 36.00. It let Qimage place the prints on the page in such a way that it can add more pictures to the page.

Snap 133 shows my custom size in the driver.

Hope this helps.

Fred




Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: hkoons on August 31, 2014, 03:30:27 PM
Although our printers are different, you just might find your answer hidden in the recent thread, "Portrait orientation when I want Landscape".
Good luck.
howard


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on August 31, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Hi Fred,

Thank you very much for taking the time to help me!

I have Qimage setup as in image 130. The Qimage template appears exactly as I have them setup in the Epson print preview.
When I click on print, the image goes to the printer as in image 131.
I have to click the little button to rotate the print or I have to setup the custom print size in the driver or both?
Sorry, I thought the program would be WYSIWYG.
Should I take some screen snaps for you?

Thanks!
Mike


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on August 31, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
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I have Qimage setup as in image 130. The Qimage template appears exactly as I have them setup in the Epson print preview.
When I click on print, the image goes to the printer as in image 131.
Yes, I would like to see what you see.
My screen snaps of 130 and 131 are identical... All I did was rotate the page on the screen. The paper in the printer is unaffected...
Did you print or just looking at the print preview?
Fred


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on August 31, 2014, 04:14:18 PM
Here is my Print PREVIEW SCREEN and my Qimage preview panel.
Identical...

Fred


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on August 31, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
Thanks Howard.
I am going to try again now.
Mike
Although our printers are different, you just might find your answer hidden in the recent thread, "Portrait orientation when I want Landscape".
Good luck.
howard


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on August 31, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Hi Fred,
Here are my settings prior to printing

Thanks!
Mike



Here is my Print PREVIEW SCREEN and my Qimage preview panel.
Identical...

Fred


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on August 31, 2014, 09:38:53 PM
Mike,

Everything is wrong..
You have the wrong ppi reading because you changed the size twice in the driver.
No check marks in the Page Layout tab... you have a check in Reduce Enlarge and another in Fit to Page.
Then you use USER DEFINED, but  did you define the page on roll paper or did you select some Arch C size paper which seems to be 18 x 24.

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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

That was your opening line. 24" roll paper.

So you need to set the roll paper size to user defined... and set user defined to 24.02 x 18.00

Then you need to remove all the things you changed in the Page Layout tab making it look like the sample I sent you.

Make sure it says OUTPUT SIZE SAME AS INPUT.
Otherwise you get a pair of shoes with a 12 D size for the left foot and a 9A for the right foot.

Hope we have it this time.

Fred




Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on August 31, 2014, 11:46:55 PM
Fred,

I am an old, tired idiot! I should use the settings you just posted and not change anything in Qimage?

Thanks,
Mike
Mike,

Everything is wrong..
You have the wrong ppi reading because you changed the size twice in the driver.
No check marks in the Page Layout tab... you have a check in Reduce Enlarge and another in Fit to Page.
Then you use USER DEFINED, but  did you define the page on roll paper or did you select some Arch C size paper which seems to be 18 x 24.

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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

That was your opening line. 24" roll paper.

So you need to set the roll paper size to user defined... and set user defined to 24.02 x 18.00

Then you need to remove all the things you changed in the Page Layout tab making it look like the sample I sent you.

Make sure it says OUTPUT SIZE SAME AS INPUT.
Otherwise you get a pair of shoes with a 12 D size for the left foot and a 9A for the right foot.

Hope we have it this time.

Fred





Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 01, 2014, 09:13:31 AM
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I am an old, tired idiot! I should use the settings you just posted and not change anything in Qimage?
Hey Mike,
You just described me!!
Let's get it organized.
Rule of thumb is that when using Qimage, you set the driver to a set of simple settings and I save them as a Printer setup in Qimage.
I use a printer profile so my driver is set to Color Management OFF!
I set the driver to the paper I am using.... Ultra Luster or Ultra Glossy, Ultra Matte... whatever. (That's two settings.)
Then I set the Quality Options to High Quality. Last is the paper size, sheet or roll.
DONE!
No checkmarks, no Scaling, No Enlarge or fit to page,,,, we are using Qimage, !!   We doan need no "steenkin' badges"  (Remember that movie?)
I save each size and paper type setting as a printer setup, so the next time I want to print an 11 x 14 print on Epson Ultra Luster, I recall the setuo in Qimage, and the driver is all set for me... for that print size and paper size...  For example, I have saved, an 8 x 10 Luster and another for 10 x 8 Luster.
When I recall, everything is ready to print...

In Qimage, you need only tell it what size print you want to make, with or without mat borders, how many on a page, where on the page....

So the follow up question is, when do you use all those settings in the driver? When you use software that needs help like many of these printing programs that come packed in the Cheerios box, along with the camera. :D :D :D

Fred


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on September 01, 2014, 04:33:51 PM
Hey Fred,

You are too funny ................. Just like me - They call me the Joker!

One other question: Do I have the paper I am using setup properly?
It is HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA 310GSM 24IN X 50FT ROLL 3IN CORE.
I used the ICC profile for it in Qimage.

OK - I forgot - 2 questions:

Have you ever used the Jon Cone inks instead of the Epson OEM inks?

I seem to be going thru much more ink than I thought I would.
Perhaps it is because I have been printing incorrectly and wasting tons of paper.

I thought it would be a good option for me since I have tons of exhibition prints I want to print.

Thank you for hanging in there with me!
Mike


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 01, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
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One other question: Do I have the paper I am using setup properly?
It is HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA 310GSM

Do you have a profile from Hahnemuhle for that paper?

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Have you ever used the Jon Cone inks instead of the Epson OEM inks?

I seem to be going thru much more ink than I thought I would.
Perhaps it is because I have been printing incorrectly and wasting tons of paper.

I thought it would be a good option for me since I have tons of exhibition prints I want to print.

I know nothing about those inks, but hang in there. Must be someone who will pass by that can nswer.

You gave me another chuckle Mike.
I was looking up that paper to see if there was a profile for you, when I stumbled across the price in B&H Photo/
... and you worry about ink?

Stay well,
Fred





Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on September 01, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
Hey Fred,

Now you know why I am worried about wasting paper .................. Expensive - but beautiful ............ looks like the old Ilford Galerie black and white photo paper I used when I was shooting 4x5 film. Yes - I am that old!

I am using the profile in Qimage.

What paper do you like from Epson that is similar to the HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA?

I would like to get a 100ft roll.

What do you shoot?

Take care,
Mike


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 01, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
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What paper do you like from Epson that is similar to the HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA?
I really don't know what your H. paper looks like, but in answer to your question, when I have a print to make for hanging or presentation, I use Epson Ultra Premium Luster.One of my friends who used H. paper was deeply into B&W. He raved about that paper until he tried Epson Ultra Prem. GLOSSY.
My favorite is the Luster, for my color prints.

I had a 4 x 5 Crown Graphic so that's how old I am.
If your camera was made out of wood and had flash powder, you have me beat!...
My flash bulbs were regular base with magnesium ribbon inside.... get one to flash in your face, and you needed a cane and a dog for an hour.

What do I shoot? Camera or subjects?

Fred



Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on September 02, 2014, 04:32:58 PM
I started using 4x5 and 8x10 cameras when I was in the US Army Signal Corps in 1970.
After graduating from the 84G20 class at Fort Monmouth, NJ, I worked in the photo lab unit and also ran a mobile photo lab on a deuce and a half truck.
I was able to use fantastic equipment, such as color processing systems, Omega enlargers, Rodenstock Rodagons and Leica M4 cameras and most importantly the wonderful Leitz optics. The US Army also had Graflex 6x9 rangefinder cameras with Zeiss Biogon, Planar and Schneider lenses. 35mm SLR cameras from Topcon, Nikon and Pentax.
We were actually using flash bulbs with the 4x5 and 6x9 cameras - I can still remember the heat from the just-fired bulbs in my pocket!

I did weddings and portraits on a part-time basis after leaving the US Army and stopped doing these after about 20 years because I was totally burned out. I still don't like going to weddings - done too many and they are too "cookie cutter".

Since then I have used DSLR cameras from Canon and Nikon. I am old school and I still like to buy cameras based on the optics I prefer.

I like to photograph macros and landscapes and I still enjoy using tilt-shift lenses for perspective control and extended depth of field.

What are your favorite photographic subjects and what do you currently use for cameras and lenses?

All the best,
Mike
 


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 02, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
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What are your favorite photographic subjects and what do you currently use for cameras and lenses?

All the best,

Used to live in NJ and New York and Pa..  I live in Sarasota, Fl now
My favorite subjects would be Bikini clad women on our many beaches, but since they usually throw things at me, I turn the camera and snap a shot of some unsuspecting heron or Egret.

I have a Canon 20D camera with 8.3 megapixels... nice large pixels, not crowded together on the sensor, and it works fine.
I have a walk around lens 28-135mm....  My favorite is an old 100-300mm push pull lens that requires a tripod. Canon L
I also have a 400mm Canon L prime lens. Sharp as a razor, but sorry I bought it. I so rarely use it. I am usually too close to make use of it.
I have a 17-40 L lens Canon, and a 70-200 mm L lens..

That's it...

My wife has a 50mm and a twin 100-300 mm to mine.

She shoots with a D 60 Canon with 6.3 Megapixels.... gorgeous results.

Fred



Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on September 06, 2014, 05:11:54 PM
I live in NJ and I was born in Boston.

My wife and I like to go to Naples, FL and we may go next month.

How do you like the 400mm Canon L? My friend says that lens is great for birds.
I rented a Nikon 80-400mm VR a couple of weeks ago to photograph a Boston Red Sox game at Fenway Park.
I was quite disappointed. I had better results last year with my 300mm Canon f4 L on my trusty old Canon 5D.
There is just something about the old sensors with the "Fat" pixels.
My friend has a 25MP Phase one digital back on his Hasselblad 503CW and it produces beautiful images.
I borrowed the back/camera a couple of times and the files are razor-sharp when viewed on a 27 inch IP-S panel.
They put the 24mp Nikon images to shame.

The new 60-80mp digital backs require special high-resolution optics from Rodenstock and Schneider that literally cost $5k to $10k!
This is the price you pay when you pack all those tiny pixels into 645 size sensor. The Nikon D800 has the same problem.
You require new lenses designed for 36MP sensor.

Where do you buy your roll-paper and Epson ink from - "The Box Shippers".
This is what my friend in the UK calls B&H ;D

Mike
 


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 06, 2014, 06:13:32 PM
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Where do you buy your roll-paper and Epson ink from -

Roll paper from Walmart, and Epson ink from Amazon.

Hi Mike,
Flying in to Naples, or driving?

Red Sox fan??     Yuk.  I am a Rays fan.

I love that 400mm. I have attached a few taken with that 400 mm but bear in mind these are screen snaps and Shrunken.

Fred


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: niknf on September 07, 2014, 12:25:25 AM
Beautiful shots ................ Would like to see some raw images in Capture One - I bet they are incredible!

We are flying down to Ft. Myers - probably the 1st week in October.
Would you like to hook-up one day?

Yes, I am a Red Sox fan. My Dad was the head groundskeeper when I was a kid .............. it is in the blood.
It was a totally different world in those days. The players would actually come over to our house and eat dinner with my family.
I can still remember the 1st time I met Ted Williams. He was a Big guy.
I am not like most fans - I have respect for other teams and players.
The Rays have had some great teams and we have actually gone to a Red Sox - Rays game in Tampa.
We had fantastic seats - 6 rows from the visitor dugout and not INSANELY - EXPENSIVE, like they are at Fenway Park.
Actually, even though the Bosox never won until 2004, my favorite teams are the ones from the late 1960s and the 1970s.
Those were the years of the true rivalry between the Bosox and the "Evil Empire".

How do you buy roll paper at Walmart? I didn't even know they sold it.
Do you have an Epson 7890?

Any place to rent a 400mm lens and a tripod down there? I hate bringing camera gear on the airplane.
I have had so many bad experiences with TSA. They destroyed an entire box of 4x5 Fujichrome film when I went to Oregon

Mike


Title: Re: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape
Post by: Fred A on September 07, 2014, 09:16:58 AM
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How do you buy roll paper at Walmart? I didn't even know they sold it.
Do you have an Epson 7890?

Mike,
There's probably 2000 people doubled over laughing.
The glossy doesn't work so well , so I get CHARMIN at Walmart!

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Yes, I am a Red Sox fan. My Dad was the head groundskeeper when I was a kid .............. it is in the blood.
It was a totally different world in those days. The players would actually come over to our house and eat dinner with my family.

I love your phrase, baseball in my blood.
It is so true.
My dad was a big baseball fan and his love for the game just went into my brother and me.
We were born and raised in the Bronx, six blocks from the Yankee Stadium, and a 5 minute "L" train ride to the Polo Grounds.
That's where our beloved New York Giants played...we hated the Yankees... not from any one on one rivalry, because they Yankees "bought" pennants as they do now. Highest payroll by far!
OUR rivalry was the dreaded Brooklyn Dodgers...
We watched Hal Schumacher and Carl Hubbel pitch, and Mel Ott and Johnny Rucker in the outfield, and a few years later came "Willie". Willie Mays...
We easily walked to the Yankee Stadium to see Joe Dimaggio play Center, and later, Mickey Mantle, but NO ONE was a better all around player than Willie.
Best baseball player I ever saw. We would go early... just to see Willie throw from the outfield on a line into third or home...now you rarely see an outfielder that can throw like Mays, Clemente, Carl Furillo, and a couple more... now they need two cut-off men to get the throw to the catcher.

Oh well, I think I better stop this stuff on the forum... really not the place, and I'll bet people are putting pins in their Fred dolls.
Happy to chat via email  wathree.ssz@verizon.net anytime.

Fred