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Mike's Software => Qimage Ultimate => Topic started by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 01:10:10 PM



Title: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 01:10:10 PM
It's odd.

On a folder of shots sometimes the instaview is the size I've seem demontrated here. On some shots it is much the same size as my thumbnail.

I think all the ones that have no Raw Refine are OK. I think that some of the Refined ones are the faulty ones but some Refined ones are OK.

Can't be sure as I have had to break for lunch (GMT).

Will tinker more in the afternoon but a pointer to the source of the oddity would be much appreciated.

Tony


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: Terry-M on March 24, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
Hi Tony.
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On a folder of shots sometimes the instaview is the size I've seem demontrated here. On some shots it is much the same size as my thumbnail.
I think all the ones that have no Raw Refine are OK. I think that some of the Refined ones are the faulty ones but some Refined ones are OK.
I cannot reproduce those symptoms here.
I've tried all types of file, raw with and without refine and or filters, jpeg's & tif.
Terry


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 01:57:43 PM
I'll do some screenshots, Terry.

Give me time to let my lunch digest.

Tony


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC EDITED
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
Here we go. My screen shot software struggles when I have to click on an image in QU!

Here the instaview is only a bit larger than the thumbnail and you can see my Raw has been refined with some extra fill

(http://www.tonygamble.org/instaview/instaview%201.jpg)

Here it is a bit larger than two thumbnails. The Raw has not been touched.

(http://www.tonygamble.org/instaview/instaview%202.jpg)

I have closed and re-opened QU to see if that sorted it. I have asked it to rebuild the thumbs.

Any clues?

What I did not do is to reload v120. I can do that the next time I go downstairs - and try any other fix you suggest!

EDIT. I have just looked on my other PC (the chunky slow one). It is the same. An instaview on an image where the RAW has not been touched is six inches tall. Where the RAW had been refined it is 3.5 inches tall. Sorry I cannot do screen shots as quickly as I can use a ruler!!


Tony


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 04:01:45 PM
OK then, two shots on this slow machine.

(http://www.tonygamble.org/instaview/instaview%203.jpg)

and

(http://www.tonygamble.org/instaview/instaview%204.jpg)

With any luck you can see the first one has a refined RAW (sounds like a lion with a posh accent!)

And the lower one is totally unrefined - like most of my puns.

Clues? Gurus!

Bye,

Tony


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
All instaviews are the same size here, either thumbs or in the queue.
On Win 7/64 machine. 4 core
On screen sizes -  8.1/2 inches wide landscape, 10 inches high portrait.

Jeff 


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: Terry-M on March 24, 2013, 04:23:54 PM
Hi Tony,
I may have got it: your problem could be related to your thumb QUALITY setting, it should be set at Best.

I did re-produce your problem but it's not related to refined or not: by setting thumb quality to medium and not allowing QU to delete the cache (you get a message).
I then rebuilt one thumb from the right mouse click menu and that then produced small insta view; the rest were still full size.
What I suggest is that you make sure thumb quality is set to "Best" in preferences and allow QU to delete the cache and start again.
If you want to try it on that one folder, don't allow QU to delete all the cache, select all thumbs in the folder and right mouse click to re-build the thumbs.
Try that and report back.
Terry


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 04:44:07 PM
Yes, Terry.

That is it. I'd dropped the Thumb quality down to medium as I thought it might pick me up some speed - as I had a larger preview to see.

Then I saw in Mike's help file that the preview size was determined by the thumbnail quality so I put it back to best.

I must have misinterpreted the message about rebuilding thumbs. I thought I was rebuilding them - but clearly not.

But you are right. If I rebuild the thumb where the preview was small it makes it bigger.

Thanks for the help.

I'll probably make the thumbs smaller - but Best quality.

Tony


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: Fred A on March 24, 2013, 05:09:00 PM
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That is it. I'd dropped the Thumb quality down to medium as I thought it might pick me up some speed - as I had a larger preview to see.

Then I saw in Mike's help file that the preview size was determined by the thumbnail quality so I put it back to best.

I must have misinterpreted the message about rebuilding thumbs. I thought I was rebuilding them - but clearly not.

But you are right. If I rebuild the thumb where the preview was small it makes it bigger.

Thanks for the help.

I'll probably make the thumbs smaller - but Best quality.

I just got home, and was remembering something about thumb quality, when I saw this post.

You dont have to make the thumbs smaller. Quality set to best doesn't change the thumb size.
Leave the size the way you like it.

Fred


Title: Re: Instaview has two sizes on my PC
Post by: tonygamble on March 24, 2013, 06:28:27 PM
Thanks Fred - and Terry,

Have just looked at a folder on my fast machine. With the right size of Instantview I can move at a good pace. I was being foiled by not getting the big picture (pun again).

I'll pop the thumbnails to medium.

Tony