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Author Topic: Save images with mat (border)  (Read 7064 times)
Ralf
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« on: January 05, 2015, 06:15:41 PM »

After adding mats to images, I wanted to save the result to separate image files using the "Convert Images" function. But it does not include the mats.

As a workaround, I used "Print To File". This works, but it's not easy to get the print size right to match exactly the size of the mat. A workaround for this would be cropping the result of "Print To File".

Is there a better way to save the image with mats to an image file?
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2015, 06:49:06 PM »

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As a workaround, I used "Print To File". This works, but it's not easy to get the print size right to match exactly the size of the mat. A workaround for this would be cropping the result of "Print To File".

Is there a better way to save the image with mats to an image file?

If I read you right, you only need to add a check in the Print Box where it says RIP  see attached screen snap.
That will remove all the white around the3 new print. No cropping



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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 07:53:06 PM »

Great, thank you, that helps. Though there are two strange things (in my mind):

  • The RIP option is only available when "Auto naming". (I used "User naming".) Not sure why there is this restriction.
  • The mats seem to generate their own files, named Template. I. e. there is one file for the image (+ border, if there is one), named like the original. And one file for each mat, named Template.

My preferred way would be an option in the "Convert Images" dialog, similar to "Honor print crops and stamps".
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 11:20:26 PM »

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The mats seem to generate their own files, named Template. I. e. there is one file for the image (+ border, if there is one), named like the original. And one file for each mat, named Template.
That's normal..
Will check on Username issue
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 09:55:02 AM »

Hi Ralf,
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As a workaround, I used "Print To File".
It's not actually a workaround but the correct way to do it.
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Is there a better way to save the image with mats to an image file?
What I do in your situation is to make the page size the size of the image (same aspect ratio) use fit to page and have crop on.
When adding the mats, I use the "shrink" option and this way I do not get any white space around the P2F image.
Select User naming with RIP off.
See attached for one I made earlier; it has 3 mats and text.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 04:11:57 PM »

Hi Terry,

thanks for your inspiring post. Please let me give you more of my thoughts:

I've been thinking of "Print To File" as a tool to use when I can't or don't want to print right now, but want to prepare the exact pixels rendering and layout for a specific output media. Something like deferred printing.

The mats, however, are more a creative pixel changing thing. Like for e-mailing a copy, or saving for the web. That way mats are more related to the images in the queue than to the layout of (multiple) images on a page. The latter is the domain of "Print To File".

In that way, a mat is more like a stamp or a cutout filter. The difference is that it does not chance the pixels inside the image. It changes what's around.

That's why I'd like to have it in both "Convert Images" and "Create E-Mail/Web Size Copies". And that's why I thought of "Print To File" being a workaround.

The use case you describe makes perfectly sense. But your're thinking more of "a single image" workflow. (With a beautiful result, I must say!) I was thinking of processing a queue with lots of images of different sizes. Usually a strength of Qimage.

Another remark: With the "shrink" option, you change the aspect ratio when adding borders of different size. In your case, cropping might not be a problem. But in mine I want to avoid it: The pixels of the image should remain unchanged. Just add mats around them.

And a wish in the end: Would be great to define mats and apply them to multiple image.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 04:17:33 PM »

Ralf,
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I've been thinking of "Print To File" as a tool to use when I can't or don't want to print right now, but want to prepare the exact pixels rendering and layout for a specific output media. Something like deferred printing.
There's a much better way: Save the Job. That saves everything in the queue, images, matts, printer settings paper etc.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 05:55:45 PM »

Terry,
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There's a much better way: Save the Job. That saves everything in the queue, images, matts, printer settings paper etc.
As long as you are on the same computer, and all the data and software is in place, and the printer is accessible from this computer, saving jobs is great. In other cases, you might be better off with "Print To File".
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