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« on: February 02, 2023, 02:00:50 AM »

Question. A large number of settings exist under the Blue Gear icon (Qimage Printing Options). I read the Help and watched the video. The Interpolation for Normal Prints shows the max of "Overdrive 1440 PPI", but AI has never selected this setting. I'm printing with the ET-8550 which is capable of a "Maximum Print Resolution of 5760 x 1440 dpi." My images are shot with a Sony a7IV which has a resolution of 7008 x 4672 ppi. AI has always selected/defaulted to the Max 720 PPI. Should I be using 1440? Clarification, please. Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2023, 08:26:34 AM »

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Question. A large number of settings exist under the Blue Gear icon (Qimage Printing Options). I read the Help and watched the video. The Interpolation for Normal Prints shows the max of "Overdrive 1440 PPI", but AI has never selected this setting. I'm printing with the ET-8550 which is capable of a "Maximum Print Resolution of 5760 x 1440 dpi." My images are shot with a Sony a7IV which has a resolution of 7008 x 4672 ppi. AI has always selected/defaulted to the Max 720 PPI. Should I be using 1440? Clarification, please. Thanks!

AI is working properly as Epson's have a max PPI  720 ppi That is Pixels per inch which refers to print size. DPI refers to DOTS PER INCH and is max resolution for the image.
The 1440 is Qimage using its own "Overdrive" If possible it doubles the native max print resolution.
My Canon has a normal max print resolution of 600 PPI, and Qimage's Overdrive makes that into 1200.
The Max setting in the driver for ppi is 720. Normal for that driver is 360. A special setting in the driver will boost to 720 ppi. Qimage will allow Overdrive changing it ti 1440.
This is Mike's genius, and on some prints, you can see the improvement; not all.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 12:56:25 PM »

Fred has the answer with regard to driver PPI.  But what you are talking about (Qimage's interpolation resolution) is not a driver setting so Driver AI does not apply and Driver AI will not change that setting.  So you can select any "Res" you want in Qimage, Driver AI is still going to set the driver to the highest quality (720 for an Epson).  You could even set Qimage to 360 if you like: Driver AI won't touch that because it isn't a driver setting and will still set the driver to its highest "Quality" setting, usually 720 PPI for Epsons.

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 06:35:22 PM »

I'm confused.  Roll Eyes  Please straighten me out.  Wink  PPI typically refers to screen resolutions (e.g., monitor, smartphone, etc.) while DPI refers to the mechanical capability of the printer head. I can understand why there's a limit there.

I googled "interpolation" and got "Interpolation is the process by which a small image is made larger. Software tools stretch the size of the image and generate pixels to fill in the blanks." This is the 'story' behind all (13) different Interpolation Types you've cataloged. The opposite, in mathematical jargon, is called "decimation." But I've never seen that term used, rather "downsampling." Correct?

So when Qimage was originally designed, digital cameras/photos typically had lower resolutions in PPI? Then, interpolation was important for getting the best prints, and this is still the case with poster sizes?  

My camera's sensor captures 33 million pixels (max. matrix of 7008x4672). To view that image on my 5120x2160 pixel monitor, the computer uses some kind of downsampling software. Similarly, print drivers (including Qimage) must also downsample to arrive at Epson's print head max of 720 DPI*.


* How can Epson then advertise a "max print resolution" of 5760x1440 DPI for the ET-8550? What do they mean?

PS. I looked up the max print resolution on Epson's P6000-P9000 commercial line of printers. Their spec sheets show three resolution settings: 720, 1440, and 2880 with 2880x1440 being the max.  Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 08:29:29 PM »

My camera's sensor captures 33 million pixels (max. matrix of 7008x4672). To view that image on my 5120x2160 pixel monitor, the computer uses some kind of downsampling software. Similarly, print drivers (including Qimage) must also downsample to arrive at Epson's print head max of 720 DPI*.

That depends.  Your 7008x4672 camera is good for 9.73x6.48 inches at 720 PPI so anything smaller than about 9.7x6.5 inches and it'll downsample.  Bigger than 9.7x6.5 inches and it'll upsample to 720.

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* How can Epson then advertise a "max print resolution" of 5760x1440 DPI for the ET-8550? What do they mean?

You are overcomplicating things by trying to make some association between 'DPI" and "PPI".  A "dot" is not a "pixel".  Just because your printer can spit 5760x1440 "dots" on a page doesn't mean you can equate each one of those dots to a pixel.  A dot can only be one of a few primary colors: to get a full color equivalent of a "pixel", you'd have to mix multiple "dots" together to get every color you can reproduce in a "pixel".

So Epson would never try to claim that their printer can reproduce an image at 5760x1440: they use a lower multiple (usually 720) and their drivers run at that PPI.  By the time the printer mixes 16 dots (8x2) made up of colors like cyan, yellow, magenta, red, green, blue, black, and gray, you can get a reasonable faximile of about 720 PPI of "image".  Similar with Canon: they wouldn't claim Canon printers that run at 4800x2400 can print an "image" at that resolution.  By the time you muddle together all the "dots" you need to get a full color image, we'll say you have about 600 PPI worth of "information" available on the page.

BTW, your camera even does something similar since among your 7008x4672 pixel image, your camera only captures one color (red, green, OR blue) for each of those pixels.  So it is only capturing 1/3 of the color information and the other 2/3 is "guessed" based on neighboring locations.  So you can get pretty complicated (convoluted) trying to define what an actual "dot" or "pixel" really is.  The bottom line is that most Epson drivers run at 720 PPI and most Canon drivers run at 600 PPI.  DPI is just a sales figure to tell you the absolute limit of the hardware (printhead, drive, etc.).  If you like cars, DPI is more akin to horsepower and PPI is like 1/4 mile time since DPI is the output of the "engine" and PPI is more like what results end up on the paper.

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