jaon
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Tried to figure this out myself but no luck so hoping this can be done.  I sell prints based on the finished paper size with a minimum one inch white border. No cropping of artwork so borders often end up uneven which is fine. My current workflow is to set up a page, centre the image and apply the border with no cropping and then print to file. I would then print this finished file to create my final print with borders. I would like to reduce the time it takes to do all of this as I have lots of images to work with.So, I recently discovered Templates which looks very promising BUT.....when I create a page template for example a 12 x 16 inch page with one inch white border this works fine, IF I add the image with cropping. BUT...for example, if I add a square format image to this page template, without cropping, Qimage automatically reduces the size of my page (to a square format). I don't want this. I really need to maintain the exact page size at all times and if cropping is unset I need the image to scale down and fit the available print space I have allowed within the template. Is there a way to lock the template page size, so that I can achieve this without Qimage altering my template size? If this is not possible to do, could this feature be added? It would literally half my production time during print sessions. Or is this already possible? Just to clarify, in case my explanation is unclear. I create a 12 x 16 page template with one inch border. I drop a 10 x 10 image on the template and I want a 12 x 16 finished page with a 10 x 10 image in the middle (one inch border on sides and 3 inches top and bottom. Anyone know how to do this? Thanks John |
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2019, 04:10:14 AM » |
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I want to be clear with regard to what you mean by "page". If you had a 12x16 sheet of paper, you would only need to add the image at the 10x10 size in IntelliCenter placement. Or are you working with a wide format printer where you want to create a 12x16 "work area" within a larger sheet of paper?
Mike
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jaon
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2019, 09:45:24 AM » |
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Hi Mike,
Yes I am working with large format printers so using roll media. In this example, I would require a 10 x 10 printed with crop lines around a 12 x 16 page. If the template I created could be locked to my chosen size with borders and treated by Qimage as if it was a regular page, then this could (in theory) be achieved. At the moment is seems that Qimage tries to save paper by creating a 10 x 10 image on a 12 by 12 page, thus preventing me using Templates and increasing my production time x 2.
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John
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Fred A
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2019, 12:10:33 PM » |
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ust to clarify, in case my explanation is unclear. I create a 12 x 16 page template with one inch border. I drop a 10 x 10 image on the template and I want a 12 x 16 finished page with a 10 x 10 image in the middle (one inch border on sides and 3 inches top and bottom.
Anyone know how to do this?
Thanks
John
Is this close to what you want? It is a 10 x 10 print with a 1.0 inch border,and a 3 inch border in red so you can see it better. If this is what you want, can do. Fred |
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2019, 01:54:07 PM » |
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Sounds like Template/Centered placement is what you are looking for.
Try this.
(1) Set placement to Template/Centered (placement button under the Live View).
(2) On the Prints tab, set your print size to 12x16.
(3) Set a white 1 inch border on the Prints tab (use B, not B+).
(4) Still on the Prints tab, turn off cropping (button with scissors icon).
(5) Optional: on the Printers and Settings tab, click on "Cut Marks" and select "Mark Corners".
(6) Click the + button on thumbnails to add prints.
Step 5 will show you where to cut the pages as the crop marks will be at the template edges (12x16).
One final note... If I were to do this, knowing I'm going to end up having to cut 12x16 sheets in the end anyway, I'd probably just cut some 12x16 sheets from the roll and sheet feed them. That way I can go to Edit, Preferences, Print and Page Formatting, set Margins to a 1.0 inch total on all sides. Then it's as simple as using IntelliCenter placement, keeping my 1.0 inch B border, and clicking "Fit to Page" as the size on every print. But, as they say, different strokes for different folks.
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Mike
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jaon
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2019, 01:35:09 AM » |
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Mike thank you for the suggestion.
I will certainly give this a go tomorrow when I am back in the office. Unfortunately cutting paper to size first is not an option for me because I print so many different print sizes and aspect ratio's on every print run. Was hoping to build a separate template for each of my standard print sizes (about 30) and then drop the template on to the roll layout for each size required to fill an order. As I mentioned earlier the templates I built worked perfectly as long as auto cropping was set to on, but since I reproduce original artwork (paintings) these obviously cannot be cropped. If the template page size remained locked and the border was pre set then this would force the template to act like a virtual page. Hopefully your suggestion will achieve this. Will post back again after trying this out.
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John
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jaon
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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2019, 09:12:01 PM » |
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Fred
Did you achieve this using a template? Or was this set up manually?
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John
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 10:49:46 AM » |
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Did you achieve this using a template? Or was this set up manually?
Regards
John That was done manually, John, Simple job once I understood Just to clarify, in case my explanation is unclear. I create a 12 x 16 page template with one inch border. I drop a 10 x 10 image on the template and I want a 12 x 16 finished page with a 10 x 10 image in the middle (one inch border on sides and 3 inches top and bottom. 1) I selected a page size to hold your job. I selected a 13 x 19 sheet. 2) Clicked the PRINT TAB, then CUSTOM, and used top selection, Enter Specific Size I typed 10.0 x 10.0 3) With auto crop on, (so we get our full 10 x 10) I add my image. 4) right click on selected image Choose Photo Mat uneven borders 5) Open that, and select color, type in 1.0 in the left and right size boxes, and 3.0 in the top and bottom. Make sure the dot below is in GROW MAT so the 10 x 10 will be maintained for the picture. Now SAVE it as a JOB. Bonus.... By doing it this way, you can recall the job, and replace the image easily by clicking the QUEUE TAB and dragging a new image and dropping it on the old one. See snaps 137 and 138 You can change or edit the mat by selecting it, and right click and EDIT MAT See screen snaps. Fred |
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jaon
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 12:10:08 PM » |
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Sounds like Template/Centered placement is what you are looking for.
Try this.
(1) Set placement to Template/Centered (placement button under the Live View).
(2) On the Prints tab, set your print size to 12x16.
(3) Set a white 1 inch border on the Prints tab (use B, not B+).
(4) Still on the Prints tab, turn off cropping (button with scissors icon).
(5) Optional: on the Printers and Settings tab, click on "Cut Marks" and select "Mark Corners".
(6) Click the + button on thumbnails to add prints.
Step 5 will show you where to cut the pages as the crop marks will be at the template edges (12x16).
One final note... If I were to do this, knowing I'm going to end up having to cut 12x16 sheets in the end anyway, I'd probably just cut some 12x16 sheets from the roll and sheet feed them. That way I can go to Edit, Preferences, Print and Page Formatting, set Margins to a 1.0 inch total on all sides. Then it's as simple as using IntelliCenter placement, keeping my 1.0 inch B border, and clicking "Fit to Page" as the size on every print. But, as they say, different strokes for different folks.
Regards,
Mike
Hi Mike, I tested your suggested workflow and it appears to work great for single print setups. In fact, this will be very useful for my single print orders. Thanks for that! Unfortunately adding a second or subsequent print (different size) to the same page after using this workflow, changes the size I have setup for the first print. Maybe I have missed something? Regards John |
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 01:03:44 PM » |
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tested your suggested workflow and it appears to work great for single print setups. In fact, this will be very useful for my single print orders. Thanks for that! Unfortunately adding a second or subsequent print (different size) to the same page after using this workflow, changes the size I have setup for the first print. Maybe I have missed something?
If you recall the job, then all settings come with it. As I showed in the flying bird, it has the same dimensions 10 x 10 as the ibis. The flying bird is a hard cropped image and still comes out the same size. I believe that you want to do more than one per print job, calling for an identical set with a different image in the 10 x 10 on roll paper The way I would do this is to start with a 10 x 10 template. Save that as a layout. This is slick. Now go to Print tab and Custom and dot the row that says Layout. Select and open your saved Layout. I called mine 10 x 10 Now add your prints, as many as you want. (I added 10 images) Each image gets the use of a new template automatically as you add images. Remember auto crop on) Now the slick part. Right click on the big image and choose SELECT ALL (Top of list) Now Right click again, and select add mat. Add mat opens and it remembered the 1.0 sides and the 3.0 top and bottom. Click OK and all the prints have the mats as it was before. The floating text is not there because I am guessing you want different text for each image anyway. You can save the Layout in the beginning with the text if you wish, and it too will recall. Hope this helps, Fred |
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 03:38:15 PM » |
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Hi Mike,
I tested your suggested workflow and it appears to work great for single print setups. In fact, this will be very useful for my single print orders. Thanks for that! Unfortunately adding a second or subsequent print (different size) to the same page after using this workflow, changes the size I have setup for the first print. Maybe I have missed something?
Regards
John Maybe I misinterpretted what you are trying to do. My steps with the 12x16 size and 1 inch border will always work for any shape (aspect ratio) image. It'll produce 12x16 "pages" with a 1 inch minimum border on the side(s). The template size (12x16) is your page size, so any image you add at the (current size) of 12x16 will conform. Any image added will have either a 1 inch border on all sides or a 1 inch border on 2 sides and a larger border on the opposing 2 sides (depends on the aspect ratio of the images). So if you want 12x16 "pages", you should never be changing the print size. Are you saying you want some "pages" at sizes other than 12x16? If you want to do that, you'd have to separate the other sizes into different jobs since you can only have one "page" size per job. Note: Fred's method is more flexible... but I was trying to get you to the simplest solution based on what you were trying to do (12x16 pages cut from a large sheet with uncropped images, 1 inch minimum borders on the sides). Regards, Mike |
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jaon
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 03:53:33 PM » |
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Mike,
It's a great solution and one that I am happy to use for many of my single print orders. On the other hand, most day's I get orders for all different print sizes. So in one print run I might have an A3, A4, 10 x 8 +12 x 16 (for example). In each case these sizes need to be the finished paper size with a one inch minimum white border and no cropping. I have to try Fred's suggestion (need to read it carefully first), but do you think that would work for me?
Thanks
John
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 04:05:24 PM » |
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I believe that you want to do more than one per print job, calling for an identical set with a different image in the 10 x 10 on roll paper
The way I would do this is to start with a 10 x 10 template. Save that as a layout.
No Fred, I am not looking for an identical set. I want to print up to 30 different sizes on the same page (Roll printing). I just need templates (Or similar) that maintain a specific size / aspect ratio and also apply a one inch border without cropping. Will your method allow for multiple saved layouts on the same page (Roll)? Regards John |
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 05:06:18 PM » |
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Just make a template for each size you use. i.e 10 x10, 12 x 12 or any other size that isn't square. 8 x 10, 11 x 14, 12 x 16 etc. It takes less that a minute to make them.
The rest you will have to listen to Mike as to which method you like and the placement on the roll.
Wish you the best
Fred
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 07:09:55 PM » |
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ust make a template for each size you use. i.e 10 x10, 12 x 12 or any other size that isn't square. 8 x 10, 11 x 14, 12 x 16 etc. It takes less that a minute to make them. I just tried another way to see which was better. I opened the 10 x 10 template, and the select it by clicking it. Then go to sizes and choose a different size. The template will resize itself. Maybe you can use this informatio, You will have to revise your work flow to suit Fred |
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