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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2021, 09:03:59 AM » |
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Dear Mike, Thank you very much for this video. What an magnificient service you deliver to someone who only uses your program since a couple of months. I'll spread the word as much as I can. By the way: I was pointed to QImage by watching video's of Jose Rodriguez and Rusty Nelson, so a big thank you to them as well. Your video explains everything very clearly. I could copy every of your actions on my own computer and yes : it works fine. However: still a few questions remain: - Guide lines, guide borders, crop marks do appear on the (edges of the) newly set working space (400 x 500) as shown in your video. But corner marks do not appear on the edges of the workingspace, but on the edges of the actual image (297x420).
- When I activate "Center on Physical page"(under Edit -> Preferences -> Print and Page formatting -> Page margins), guide lines, guide borders, crop marks are a bit off the newly set working space. Corner marks are still on the actual image, like before. Am I overlooking something or did I (by accident) stumble upon a bug?
- In this case: will the image itself now be centered on the physical page, inside the working space or within the guide lines?
Once again: thank you helping me this far. Looking forward to any answer to my last questions. Best regards from The Netherlands, Mees |
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2021, 01:35:14 PM » |
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I don't understand why the corner marks would appear on the print. I was able to get the Pro-1000 print preview to work: I had the port set to FILE and when I set it to USB, I can get a print preview. See attached: it places the corner marks at the template 400x500 location. For this print preview, I simply ran through the same procedure as the video and then clicked "Print" with the print preview turned on in the driver. You are not switching out of Template/centered placement, are you? Also, I assume you are running the latest version?
For Template/centered placement, don't use the "Center on physical page" option because Template/centered placement centers the print on the "page" within the printable area. Center on physical page centers the print on the "paper" but the template will still be centered within the printable area. Since the printable area on the Pro-1000 is not quite centered, that will make the print and template not align correctly. There's no need to use "Center on physical page" in this instance because you are cutting out the 400x500 area. If you did need to center it on the physical page, you could use Edit, Preferences, Print and Page Formatting, Page Margins, and make the top and bottom margins equal. Then both the red template (and cut marks) and the print will be centered on the paper itself.
Edit: In thinking about it, when you tried the corner marks, maybe it's possible that you hadn't set the new working size to 400x500. That's the only way I can get corner marks on the print instead of at the 400x500 template location.
Regards,
Mike
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2021, 05:02:24 PM » |
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Aaah, you've got me there. I did not go as far as the preview mode, but now I have. I do see the corner marks on my preview and I actually printed this on my Canon Pro-1000.
We're getting closer to the end but are not there quite (yet). The preview looks good, but... the actual size of the corner marks on the physical print is 395x500 mm (although the working size is set to 400x500). So: there is a difference of 5 mm in heigth, but the width is spot on. What could be the cause of this difference in heigth, while the width is exactly right?
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« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2021, 07:59:55 PM » |
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You can go into the full page editor and use the measuring tool to measure the distance between the red lines in the template. I get 400x500 which means that is what Qimage is sending to the driver. Are you using canvas paper or a fine art paper? Those shrink along the length (only) once you print on them: that is, in the direction of the paper feed. You could precisely measure the paper before and after you print on it to see if the paper is shrinking. If so, you should be able to use the canvas shrink compensation to counter that.
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Mike
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2021, 04:15:21 PM » |
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I think that I may have discovered where the problem lies, regarding my last observation (395x500).
When in "Template/centered" mode, corner marks are apparently placed "relative" to the actual image. When that image is moved in the "full page editor", corner marks will also move. So they will no longer mark the outer edges of the working space. Not a problem persé.
However: they will not move further than the margin of the paper (in my printer that is 3 mm) and hence they can loose their exact distance. Some markers can move freely, some cannot. I wonder whether this is intended behaviour.
So when I moved my image by 11,5 mm to the top of the top (long side) of the paper, the corner marks only moved 8.5 mm. And since I had "Snap" set to 1 mm, I effectively lost 5 mm on the top side (and of course none at the bottom side). That left me with 395x500 mm between the corner marks.
Guide lines and crop marks will stay put, even after moving the actual image. So they seem to be placed "absolute" to the working space. Guide borders seem to behave like Corner marks.
Best regards,
Mees
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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2021, 05:46:12 PM » |
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I wish I knew what you are trying to accomplish. Why move the print at all and create a freehand page when you are just going to cut a 400x500 rectangle? Template/centered is designed to allow you to create a template or working size to cut with a print centered within that template. If you start moving your prints, you are no longer in template/centered placement: you are in freehand mode for that page. As you discovered, there are some cut marks that are designed to be relative to the print and some that stay at the template edges. That is to allow some versatility in where you actually want the cut marks as this only applies to the template placement modes. I will likely make the cut marks visible in a future version so that is more obvious.
But if you explain what you are trying to do (why you feel like you have to move the print), I can advise what to do in order to get the end result you want.
Regards,
Mike
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2021, 02:47:53 AM » |
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I didn't have time until now, but I made a second video response that shows how to do literally any kind of customization you want to place cut marks and prints anywhere you like using layouts. I figured if you want to go beyond the usual "easy mode", it's time to graduate to layouts.  https://youtu.be/Fu7VlTia_JURegards, Mike |
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2021, 09:50:48 AM » |
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Dear Mike
Once again an example of outstanding service. And yes: we arrived at the end of this rather long journey. So far I never suspected that one could place templates on top of each other and then move them together. This is a really nice feature.
The second (smaller) template can be placed anywhere (not only centered) inside/on top of the larger template, I found out. And that is exactly what I wanted. My photoclub exposition has been work in progress, so I now decided that inside the 400 x 500 frame, the actual picture has to have 40 mm of margin at the top and both left and right sides. At the bottom there is some extra room for the name of the photographer and the club. Corner marks are clearly visible and can be used for easy cutting/trimming. We’re all set now for “production”.
You’ve made my day and one more time: thank you very much.
Mees
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« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2021, 10:23:53 AM » |
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Mike
will you be uploading these instructive video's into the help system? Could be helpful.
Mees
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« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2021, 09:18:45 PM » |
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I made one final video to show how to deal with uneven borders around the print. This video shows how you can edit all 4 borders around the print to be anything you like: https://youtu.be/qKgL6eFVgl0Mike |
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2021, 08:01:51 AM » |
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Great work and thanks again!!
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