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Author Topic: Speed through more selective Virus protection  (Read 10660 times)
tonygamble
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« on: January 03, 2013, 11:04:39 AM »

One my machines is pretty slow with QU so I decided to see if some modification to my Virus Protection helped.

I use MalwareBytes and Microsoft Security Essentials. In both I have said ignore folders:-

My Pictures - where the relevant files I work on are stored.
Qimage-U  - where the magic potion is stored.

I seem to see some more speed when working in QU.

My question is what else might it help to 'ignore' ? I get confused when I look into the depths of Program Data and those user/user(?) folders. But if some work is going in it them maybe I should notify my Virus protectors. And what about caches? To me it seems logical to avoid virus checking every read/write that happens there.

All suggestions welcome friends.

Tony


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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 11:14:59 AM »

Hi Tony,
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I seem to see some more speed when working in QU
With my ex-engineer hat on, you probably ought to do some actual timings, re-build thumbs & raw cache in a folder and time for QU to finish its part in the printing process.
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My question is what else might it help to 'ignore' ?
Cache and all other similar stuff is in here C:\ProgramData\ddisoftware.
I'm not sure about excluding My Pictures, can some image files contain a virus? Something for you to Google.
Terry
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 11:22:36 AM »

Thanks Terry,

Yes, you are right about the stopwatch. At the moment I am going on the impression that bringing up the image with the spacebar is quicker and calling up Raw Refine likewise. I'll do that ProgramData item and then try to be more scientific.

Yes, you are right about My Pictures containing worms! I could be more specific and just have folders I use for QU.

Tony
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 11:56:44 AM »

One other point, the deeper down a directory tree the images are, the slower access will be for an application to "drill" down to them. I know Fred has his images in  folder in the root of C drive ie. C:\Photos. Perhaps I should do the same!
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 12:15:56 PM »

Thanks Terry,

You'll remember that my main machine has the SSD as Drive C. I have an images file on its root so very little drilling will be needed. The ProgramData will also be on the SSD.

It is my desk machine that I am currently tinkering with. It is an old two core and really struggles with QU. However, I use it for testing ideas when they come up from the likes of you and Fred.

Tony
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 03:56:45 PM »

Ah well!

Stopwatch says no change. But it looked faster. How annoying when fact clouds opinion!

But at least I have tried. What I have found is that the more complicated the 'filter' the more time it takes the spacebar to bring up the finalised version. But I suppose that is logical when one thinks about it - more processing to do.

T.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 10:01:18 PM »

I am in the Anti-virus business. Make sure you do NOT have both real time scanners enabled in Malwarebytes and MSE. One or the other but not both. Enableing both real-time scanners will seriously slow down any PC.  I enable the real-time in MSE and use Malwarebytes free as a backup quick scanner.

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 07:54:27 AM »

"I am in the Anti-virus business". So you are the one to ask, then. It is not the first time I have read that running too much real time protection can be counterproductive.

With MalwareBytes I untick all the boxes in the tab marked Protection. I have a Quick Scan scheduled daily (at 1.00 am) and an Update scheduled each morning (at 10.30 am).

With MSE I make sure the box is ticked for Real Time Protection in the Settings tab. I have a Quick Scan scheduled daily (at 3.00 am) and check for the latest definitions before running the scan.

And, to follow Fred's guidance, I run Acronis each morning around 04.30.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 10:25:11 AM »

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And, to follow Fred's guidance, I run Acronis each morning around 04.30.

And when does that poor machine sleep?

Tony, I just wonder if you habitually leave the machine on 24 hours a day.
I know many people that subscribe to that modus operandus. They have read that more wear and tear comes from starting a hard drive than leaving it running at idle.
I do not subscribe to that theory.

My experience over many years of fiddling with these things is that a COLD BOOT is imperative from time to time.
I have fixed many a "slow" problem, a "lagging" problem, sometimes, CPU usage and HD usage that are slowing the machine.
I have had weird situations where only a cold boot, including an AC power off to the machine (pull the plug) for a minute was the only thing that cured the problem.  (Something stuck in the memory or even a tough print spooler log jam)

I am not saying I am hard wired right. I am saying that my experience has taken me this route, and I believe in it.

I might be wrong!!   
Probably am wrong, but I have seen it with my own eyes.

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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 10:59:10 AM »

Fred,

With my new SSD machine in my studio I run Acronis at the end of each useage and leave it to turn off the machine. When I was buying that machine I did some reading, endorsed by Terry, that suggested that SSD drives wear out from over use. So I assumed it was better to turn it off. The second reason being that, as it does not spin, it is less likely not to want to spin on power up. Also, again due to the SSD, it is quick to boot.

This desk machine is the slow two core with a normal hard drive. I leave it switched on 14/7 except when I go on holiday. At night it runs those two virus scans and the Acronis backup (to an external hard drive).

When I turned it on a week ago, having been away for a week, there was quite a noise. My guess is that it is rubbish in the power unit as it quietened down within ten minutes - and the machine booted normally which suggests that the HDD was running correctly. I suppose what I ought to do is to take the vacuum cleaner to the power unit and see if it removes any rubbish.

The other thing I remember people saying is that the cooling down and heating up of the memory boards can sometimes cause the pins on the chips to gradually come loose. That's the other reason for leaving the machine running.

However, I do a reboot around once a week - usually forced upon me by something like Adobe Flash requiring a re-start.

Tony


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