trouble rotating an image

BillHorne

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« on: September 14, 2013, 12:31:35 AM »

Recently upgraded to Ultimate and mostly v happy, thanks. Having a bit of trouble, though, with some old saved jobs in which I've moved the linked image file to a new drive and it now imports 180 degrees the wrong way. When I try to use the Set Rotation tool in Edit Page, nothing happens and the little rotation icon is not appearing. I'm probably missing something v obvious, but I'd love to know how to unlock the image. (No, the Image Lock button has not been pressed.)


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Terry-M

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2013, 06:52:51 AM »

Hi Bill,
I cannot reproduce your problem here - why images are rotated 180 deg in the first place I cannot understand.
Are the thumbnails in the correct orientation? If they are, try setting the Print Orientation to "Locked" before placing the images onto the page.

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When I try to use the Set Rotation tool in Edit Page, nothing happens and the little rotation icon is not appearing.

The only way I can make this happen is if the print size is too large to fit within the page in the rotated position.
EG. a Page size of 11x8.5" landscape", printable area 10.75x7.75" say and a portrait image, print size of 6x8". This will fit on the landscape page but rotated to the landscape position. If you then try to set the rotation to match the portrait thumbnail, QU will not allow it because the 8" is larger than the printable area size of 7.75"
Hope that makes sense!
Check you printable area dimensions relative to the print size, have the crop scissors been turned off when they should be on, should borderless be set?
Terry


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BillHorne

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2013, 11:16:55 AM »

I've had this print job set up for 3 years. It's a landscape format image that I've had set rotated 90 degrees for a letter size sheet in portrait mode, with a title and the artist's name below the image. Paper tray setup as borderless, but deselecting that doesn't change anything.

Since upgrading to Ultimate, I've had some issues with my Maxtor USB drive where most of my images have resided. I've been gradually transfering them over to a hard disk and when the thumbnail appeared with its crisscross red lines, I changed the path to the new one. In the past with QImage, this manoeuver always worked. But for some reason the re-linked thumbnail ends up @ 180 degrees to what it used to be. I suppose I could rotate the image 180 degrees in Photoshop and see if it then corrects the thumbnail, but that's a klunky kind of workaround.

Will attach a couple of screen shots.


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Terry-M

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2013, 08:25:22 PM »

Bill,

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I've had some issues with my Maxtor USB drive where most of my images have resided.

Perhaps there's been corruption of data somewhere like the rotation tag in the image data.

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It's a landscape format image that I've had set rotated 90 degrees for a letter size sheet in portrait mode, with a title and the artist's name below the image

I'm not clear how you want the image on the page, your screen shot seems to show what you say you want.
Do you want to see the image as Landscape on the Portrait page, ie. at right angles to what is shown on your screen shot?
If that is the case it wont work because the longer dimension of the print, 9.2" is greater than the width of the paper printable area at 8.497".
You should note too that because borderless is set, there will be some expansion of the image as indicated by 370 x 370 above the preview. Without borderless set it would be 360 x 360 ppi.

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I suppose I could rotate the image 180 degrees in Photoshop and see if it then corrects the thumbnail, but that's a klunky kind of workaround.

So from that I assume the thumbnail is showing the image rotated to a portrait format rather than landscape?
No need to go to PS, use the QU image editor; right click the thumb, select Predefined filter and choose the appropriate {Q} Rotate .... filter.

However, you still should be able rotate on the page. Your second screen shot shows rotation set as "Don't Care Auto". I would think "90 Thumb Rotated Right" as most appropriate. However, if I have understood your requirement correctly, that will not be possible with the print/ page size combination as I said above.
Please let me know if I have that wrong.
Terry


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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2013, 10:28:44 PM »

Quote from: BillHorne on September 14, 2013, 11:16:55 AM

In the past with QImage, this manoeuver always worked. But for some reason the re-linked thumbnail ends up @ 180 degrees to what it used to be.

Keep in mind that prior versions of Qimage sometimes auto-rotated prints the wrong way and that was fixed in 2014.112. All versions since then have the bug fixed so that prints always rotate properly whether the image is portrait or landscape and whether or not the page is portrait or landscape. If you are loading an old job/setup saved in a prior version, it'll still load the same way it did before but if you are creating new layouts, it means that sometimes your prints will now rotate 90 degrees to the right where they used to rotate 90 degrees to the left. The solution is: if you are creating new (or re-saving) layouts, you'll need to move your text to the other side if that happens. Or better yet: use the same paper orientation as your image (landscape page for a landscape image, etc.).

Also keep in mind that depending on both image orientation and page orientation, "proper" auto-rotation may sometimes be 90 degrees clockwise and other times 90 degrees counterclockwise. Old versions always rotated prints counterclockwise which resulted in prints "swapping places" and printing out of order when the page orientation was changed.

Mike


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Terry-M

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2013, 07:02:42 AM »

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you'll need to move your text to the other side if that happens

I missed that in this case as the image is sort of abstract Roll Eyes

Terry


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BillHorne

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 08:13:05 AM »

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions, and sorry for the delay in replying - was out of town for an exhibition. Will do some tinkering and see what happens.
(and yes, the image is semi-abstract.)


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Abigail111

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2013, 03:40:01 AM »

HI THERE
I have encountered a problem in rotating the image.I I've had set rotated 90 degrees for an image.But it display as 180 degrees.
I usually rotate the image using an image program .This issues appeares after my updating.What should i do?
SHould i change an image process program?Thanks for any suggestion.


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Terry-M

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Re: trouble rotating an image

« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 08:12:35 AM »

Hi Abigail,

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I have encountered a problem in rotating the image.I I've had set rotated 90 degrees for an image.But it display as 180 degrees.

Make sure the print orientation lock (padlock below preview) is OFF and then all should work ok. This is for version 2014.126.
Terry


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