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Author Topic: Ultimate's New Raw Speed  (Read 5473 times)
Fred A
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« on: March 21, 2013, 09:42:33 AM »

Got up early, and have been playing with 120.

I have a few larger images from friends, and the improvement in wait time from 1 minute and 6 seconds to 16 seconds has to be monumental.
Here's what to look for...

1) It used to wuz that building or rebuilding thumbs would be tantamount to hanging a sign on your computer, "Out to Lunch. Be back in 30 minutes"

So here's what to do.

Rebuild a few selected thumbs or a whole folder.
The first thing you see is the usual yellow WAIT sign as each thumb is being rebuild, but in just a few seconds, 11 seconds, in my case with my old computer, that "yellow warning icon" will turn green!!

The moment it is green, go to work.
Click the Plus on the thumb, or double click the thumb and the image is *there* waiting for you in the editor.

I am going to stop here and check some more.
Terry is inspecting the new 120, and should be along soon.
Anyone else with a comment on what he/she sees, Come on in. The water's fine.
Fred

I had to add something.
My 20D images are 8 MP and it takes six seconds to blink to green/ready.
That is 6 seconds for ONE thumbnail...
Try selecting 4 thumbnails to rebuild. How long does that take?

SIX seconds, because Q-Ultimate can and does, FOUR thumbs at a time.

Fred again
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 10:46:16 AM »

I said here
http://ddisoftware.com/tech/qimage-ultimate/v2013-120-issuescomments/msg13675/#msg13675
that “it (v120) makes my user experience so much better”
Let me try to justify that statement.
When I changed my camera last year and went from one that produced 8MB raw file to one that made 24MB files, the time difference to make the raw cache and wait before I could get going with refining and editing a batch of images was noticeably longer. The introduction of v120 with “super fast raw processing” has now made the work flow much faster than v119 was with 8MB raw images.  Shocked
Like Fred, I did some timing’s late last night; my quad core PC has a slightly later, more powerful processor that Fred’s so equivalent raw images are quicker to process here.

Time to make an image available for refine or image editing:
First Canon 600D CR2 images ~ 24MB (timed with 10 images)
V119: 52 secs
V120: 2.0 secs (edit corrected)
 Second, I have a number of Nikon D800 raw images ~ 74MB, although some samples are 45MB: (timed with 1 image)
V119: 36 secs
V120: 10 seconds

One aspect of version 120 that is particularly helpful to me is in using the image editor. Most of you will know it’s possible to click a button and go to the refine screen from the editor and back again. Previously that required the “final” raw cache for that image to be re-built but now the new concept of using a temporary “draft” cache image is exploited to make the refresh of the editor screen very much quicker & smoother.
How do I know about the new “draft” cache? In the editor, helpful colour coded messages appear, see attached screen shots.
The first shot shows the initial editor message after clicking “save” in the refine screen. That very soon disappears and the image is ready again for editing. However, you are still kept informed as what QU is doing: the second and third shots show new messages about the status of the raw cache.
Now, can I spot the difference on-screen when it changes from draft to final raw cache  Huh?  Roll Eyes
It seems that while I’m busy refining or editing, the final cache is being made in the background without affecting in any way me getting on with the job – nice!  Kiss
So what happens when I print, I’ll have to check?
Terry
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2013, 11:17:50 AM »

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Now, can I spot the difference on-screen when it changes from draft to final raw cache   
It seems that while I’m busy refining or editing, the final cache is being made in the background without affecting in any way me getting on with the job – nice!
Now what happens when I print, I’ll have to check?
Terry

We are all learning together...
So as per Terry's example, we have returned to the editor, and we see the magenta colored status line that says Draft Raw. We can work as long as we want, doing most everything.
You can also see from Terry's screen snap, that the status is now BLUE showing that the full final RAW is ready.
If you click that blue link, !BLINK! the final raw has replaced the draft raw.
Why and when should I do this?
Well, the answer is sort of simple. If I click it, I have my normal Final Raw, which I would like to use for very fine work, like DFS sharpening and Blemishes; stuff like that.

I can stay with the Magenta colored Draft file too...bit since the time factor is a blink, click the blue FINAL RAW READY, and you are "home in your easy chair".

Oh on the printing, 
It would be very rare that you would be ready to print before the cache is complete on the images you have in the queue.
But in case, Qimage would simply hesitate for a few beats after you clicked the print button until the Final Raw was ready for use.
Terry is the Engineer. He will have actual numbers for you.


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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2013, 02:31:08 PM »

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Terry is the Engineer. He will have actual numbers for you.
I don't think Fred can add up  Grin
Regarding time differences with a new folder of images, I went down to my local village green so get a fresh batch of images and resisted the temptations the local pub to take 27 photos, see attached.
It took just 52 seconds for all the images to acquire the green dot and every one was ready for refine and edit. Version 119 would have taken 2mins 15 secs.
Extrapolating to a batch of say, 100 images, that would be about 3mins 12 secs for V120 and 10mins 48 secs for V119. That is a saving of  over 7 minutes  Shocked  Cool

I had always accepted the previous timings for cache building as a small price to pay for better performance in later processing, but now it's a whole new ball game.
Well done Mike  Cheesy
Terry
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