Mike,

Photo Mats gets better.

White uneven borders are equal to white even borders in colour management. That  is good, my HP Zs can apply Gloss Enhancer ink to the image only and leave both types of borders without it, that is good. Quite happy about that as I had to use odd methods to get the same result before with uneven borders.

Much better on the Mark Corners that are now put on the template. They are lost at two corners however when only an uneven border at one side is added, not a common case I guess but could be difficult with high key images. Solved with a 0.5mm border at the other sides.

For the rest much of my comments stil stand. With multiple images on the print page it is a minefield to wander in .....

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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

A few minutes certainly with even borders including the decision that a 44" roll gave more paper waste and 36" less so nested for the last. That goes fast with optimal or optimal/spaced. If done with uneven borders it asks for way more time, the more if you like to have the corner marks in line so cutting goes faster. The example images are with uneven borders. A compromise on paper waste and fast cutting as the goal. Avoiding overlaps of templates or images, not to mention images dropping off the print page or signature space added at the left side instead of underneath with rotated images. I can cut up to 6 feet length on the cutter but usually do not go beyond the 44" size in jobs like shown. The diversity of jobs is endless, the argument that one can save a template for this may apply more for photo shops that have certain sizes of frames to sell. If wise they buy the roll widths that suit the frames too. My customers take the prints and have the custom frames made so I can get odd requests on sizes and borders. I use two sizes rolls 36" and 44" mainly for that reason.

As written before the uneven border feature like it is will be fine for one or some images on a sheet, colored or white borders. Let's call it the Qimage Ultimate: Fred and Terry Edition. I would have liked a white signature space at the border settings and the auto nesting features kept. Let us say: we agree that we disagree and leave it there.


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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.

Took your 36 inch roll example and did the same thing in about 45 seconds in QU (including adding the images).

- Start in optimal spaced
- Pick print size, add images
- Rotate two landscapes at the bottom (don't have to, but why not)
- Select all photos on the page, right click to "Add Photo Mat"
- Select white color, 1 inch on top, left, and right, and 2 inches on the bottom (about what you had)
- Click "Edges", "Mark corners", and print.

I don't see the problem.  Never had to even move a print!

You can even start in "optimal" mode instead of "optimal-spaced" and only make one cut between each row.

Mike

Mike,

This is the best approach to what I actually needed. It does not exactly replicate what I got though. The size of portrait images and landscape images were kept the same so the matte aspect ratios differed after the signature space was created and the landscape images could not fit 3x in the width of the roll while the portrait ones could hence their different positions in the print page.

I was not aware of the 3x formulation trick in the short side menu, can not find it documented either (so far). Is a nice feature. With a 0.5mm border+ for all I see differences of 1 mm between the short side on them however and the images did not nest as rows in the width of the roll/print page . Removed the 0.5mm border and they did nest properly and they got the right small side size. With the integrated 0.5mm border it worked correctly. Something similar happened a long time with the fit page function and border+ settings but that was cured not so long ago.

With my preferred method of images sizes set by the customers in the images (PS Tiffs) it gets more difficult when mattes have to expand. I should abandon that method for uneven borders and make the calculations first (image size + uneven border sizes) to get them fitted in the print page and then shrink the image to the customers specified size again with short side fix set. I probably will add the 15mm white in PS though and the rest with normal borders in Qimage, still more convenient.

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Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
January 2014, 600+ inkjet media white spectral plots.