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http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage-uv2015.107 Oct 31, 2014 Priority: Low v2015.107 fixes an issue with the auto-cropping when using horizon leveling in the image editor. Mike
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Mack
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2014, 09:47:45 PM » |
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Since I had to find my old post one how to save an edited image again this AM, and then trying to find it in the weird {Q}Prints folder....  Wish the software had an easier way of saving our altered Qimage files than changing the pull-down to read "Print to File" and then the need again to hit "Print" again to assign it into a folder to save and see it. Then having to go back in and alter it to "Print to Printer" to send it to the printer. Seems a lot of wasted effort for a simple "Save image" and "Print to File" makes no sense at all. You print or you don't, but a "Print to file?" Seems it would be easier to have a "Save to File" in the initial pull-down menu for a Qimage edited/altered print than going through all the menus to get it to Save an edited image. Mack |
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Terry-M
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2014, 08:34:37 AM » |
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Hi Mack, Wish the software had an easier way of saving our altered Qimage files than changing the pull-down to read "Print to File" I am wondering why you are using P2F to save an image with it's changes? I would only use P2F if I wanted to save some "print" features like floating text or mats and normally not save to a new image anyway because QU incorporates any raw refine (qrs) and image edit (flt) changes when the image is printed. If it is necessary to save a separate copy of an image then I would normally use, for a raw image, "convert" from the queue context menu. You can also use the Image Editor and "Save As" or "Save Filtered Image". Terry |
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Fred A
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2014, 10:24:19 AM » |
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Wish the software had an easier way of saving our altered Qimage files than changing the pull-down to read "Print to File" and then the need again to hit "Print" again to assign it into a folder to save and see it. Then having to go back in and alter it to "Print to Printer" to send it to the printer. This is not true. If you want to PRINT with text or mats, just print.! You don't have to convert that to a Print to File. You only have to use P2F for emails and making an image for someone else that has mats. You don't even have to save it for yourself. Once you have made your print, you can always get it back exactly the same as it was before from File/Auto Job log, select it and OPEN. Fred |
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Mack
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2014, 03:35:18 PM » |
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Wish the software had an easier way of saving our altered Qimage files than changing the pull-down to read "Print to File" and then the need again to hit "Print" again to assign it into a folder to save and see it. Then having to go back in and alter it to "Print to Printer" to send it to the printer. This is not true. If you want to PRINT with text or mats, just print.! You don't have to convert that to a Print to File. You only have to use P2F for emails and making an image for someone else that has mats. You don't even have to save it for yourself. Once you have made your print, you can always get it back exactly the same as it was before from File/Auto Job log, select it and OPEN. Fred Fred, You are correct in that I want to hand the image file back to someone so they can get the edited result. They do not have QU and hand it off to their printer (Who uses Macs.). They wouldn't know what to do with the side-file QU uses for the image so saving the image as a TIFF works better for the hand back of the image. It's just that QU has a very obscure way of saving an edited image (to later give away) in the File menu. I understand "Print" and "Save," but "Print to File" and "Print to Printer" (Very redundant!) just to save an edited image in QU seems very odd and laborious. Then one has to hit the "Print" button tab to Save the image in yet another pop-up box. Then locating it in a {Q}Print file when most other software just apply their extension in a "Save image" like _DxO.tif or _copy.tif or _01.tif or even _copy_copy_.tif (or _.psd) as onONe does on multiple edits. And once done in QU, then one has to go back to check "Print to Printer" to put it back into printing mode. Something simple like File > Save Image is so much easier than the current incantation and menu footwork. Just save the image with a _DSC7321_QU.tif extension in the same folder or something. In my way of understanding QU's File menu.  Now someone will tell me there is a one-step "Save image" button in the Editor somewhere - ugh!  Mack |
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Fred A
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2014, 04:19:13 PM » |
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Something simple like File > Save Image is so much easier than the current incantation and menu footwork. Just save the image with a _DSC7321_QU.tif extension in the same folder or something.
Mack, It isn't as simple as you would think. There are two factors. They are distinctly different. One is the image. It is not a print until it goes into the queue, and even then it isn't welded together. The second item that is totally different from the image is the Print. We can size a print, crop it, mat border it, add text to it, add other images to it on the same page.... etc. We slide stuff around we fix it just ready to print, and we PRINT. Let's say you are making a greeting card or a collage. Now you want to send this "creation" to a friend. It contains all of the elements mentioned above... We must now "bake our cake" All the ingredients are in the pan in the proper amounts, but it isn't a cake until we bake it. So we must combine all our ingredients and do so using PRINT TO FILE.. This new file now contains all the elements of the print. You can send it, or print it, upsample it, downsample it, change the size, with margins or without. That's different from Create a Tif or Save As a jpg. That is for images and their filters to combine. Fred |
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Terry-M
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2014, 04:27:56 PM » |
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Mack, just to save an edited image in QU seems very odd and laborious. You have completely ignored what I said in my post #2 on this matter, nor have you said that you actually needed to produce an image with text or mats. As I said there are several other "conventional" ways to save an edited image. "Print to" is not an unusual concept: PDF software is a "printer driver" so it's print to pdf. Print to file has been in QU from very early days and was introduced to enable users to send images to an external print facility with the right profile and a re-sized image made with QU's superior interpolation. In recent times P2F has been developed to make it more versatile. So, only use P2F if you really need to include print features in the image. Terry |
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Mack
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2014, 05:54:53 PM » |
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Mack, just to save an edited image in QU seems very odd and laborious. You have completely ignored what I said in my post #2 on this matter, nor have you said that you actually needed to produce an image with text or mats. As I said there are several other "conventional" ways to save an edited image. "Print to" is not an unusual concept: PDF software is a "printer driver" so it's print to pdf. Print to file has been in QU from very early days and was introduced to enable users to send images to an external print facility with the right profile and a re-sized image made with QU's superior interpolation. In recent times P2F has been developed to make it more versatile. So, only use P2F if you really need to include print features in the image. Terry Terry, I'm not using text, mats, collages, greeting cards, frames, or whatever in QU (Your question #2). That stuff is far too complex for me to dig into on a daily basis, and it isn't in my daily "Just print the darn thing and move on" workflow. I'll use PS for that stuff as it saves normally to the image (AND QUICKLY!) and not in extra *.flt side files as does QU. I just use QU for printing and minor print editing that I see from the printer only. The extra candy mentioned is way too much for me to get involved with. On the QU editing end, it is laborious to save an image for a client out of QU once printer/editing only functions are applied, no? A simple "Save the image" without a bunch fly-outs, subsequent pop-up boxes, then needing click "Print" to even save it from another pop-out box, hunt down the folder it went to, then go back in the File menu and change it all back to the default "Print to Printer" stuff is arduous at best - and forgetful too. There has to be a far better and easier (faster!) way to save an image to hand-off to someone else without going so far deep into the program, and then go back deep to put it back into print (default) mode. Sorry, but it's getting far to complex for simple functions like print and save with all the fly-outs. Mack |
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2014, 06:32:09 PM » |
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There has to be a far better and easier (faster!) way to save an image to hand-off to someone else without going so far deep into the program, and then go back deep to put it back into print (default) mode. Sorry, but it's getting far to complex for simple functions like print and save with all the fly-outs.
Mack
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Fred A
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2014, 06:35:50 PM » |
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I'm not using text, mats, collages, greeting cards, frames, or whatever in QU (Your question #2). That stuff is far too complex for me to dig into on a daily basis, and it isn't in my daily "Just print the darn thing and move on" workflow. I'll use PS for that stuff as it saves normally to the image (AND QUICKLY!) and not in extra *.flt side files as does QU. I just use QU for printing and minor print editing that I see from the printer only. The extra candy mentioned is way too much for me to get involved with. Now that you clarified that you never need Print to File, all we need do is explain how to save a picture that you worked on.
There has to be a far better and easier (faster!) way to save an image to hand-off to someone else without going so far deep into the program, and then go back deep to put it back into print (default) mode. Sorry, but it's getting far to complex for simple functions like print and save with all the fly-outs. So all I have to do is explain how to SAVE AS and you should be happy, right? While still in the Editor, simply click FILE and Save As.... A box opens to ask WHERE, and what name do you want to give it!! Do you want a JPG or TIF? Then it asks what color space you would like to save it in? Select and OK It's stickier in Photo Shop Fred |
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Fred A
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2014, 06:45:08 PM » |
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In PS, I see my image, then I have to go to lower right and OPEN IMAGE.
Then File Save As
Then I have to Name the image and select the file type and colorspace
Next screen either wants compression for JPG or some questions about a TIF save.
What is so very different?
Fred
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Mack
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2014, 11:11:48 PM » |
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I'm not using text, mats, collages, greeting cards, frames, or whatever in QU (Your question #2). That stuff is far too complex for me to dig into on a daily basis, and it isn't in my daily "Just print the darn thing and move on" workflow. I'll use PS for that stuff as it saves normally to the image (AND QUICKLY!) and not in extra *.flt side files as does QU. I just use QU for printing and minor print editing that I see from the printer only. The extra candy mentioned is way too much for me to get involved with. Now that you clarified that you never need Print to File, all we need do is explain how to save a picture that you worked on.
There has to be a far better and easier (faster!) way to save an image to hand-off to someone else without going so far deep into the program, and then go back deep to put it back into print (default) mode. Sorry, but it's getting far to complex for simple functions like print and save with all the fly-outs. So all I have to do is explain how to SAVE AS and you should be happy, right? While still in the Editor, simply click FILE and Save As.... A box opens to ask WHERE, and what name do you want to give it!! Do you want a JPG or TIF? Then it asks what color space you would like to save it in? Select and OK It's stickier in Photo Shop Fred There's the Ah-Ha! moment!  So the "File" in the Editor is different than what "File" is in the Main window! That's the trick! They are set up differently and that's all I needed to know. I was tearing my hair out with the other way to save an image going back and forth in the Main > "File" window. All better now that I finally clicked on the Editor's "FILE" header and see it there and a straight-forward "Save as...(TIFF, JPG, etc.)" rather than that obscure Python language "Print to File" in the main one. Thanks! Mack |
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2014, 09:48:28 AM » |
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Mack, So the "File" in the Editor is different than what "File" is in the Main window! That's the trick! It's no trick, just normal Windows, different window, different menu and if you'd read my first post properly, you'd have got there sooner  Terry |
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Fred A
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2014, 10:04:11 AM » |
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It's no trick, just normal Windows, different window, different menu and if you'd read my first post properly, you'd have got there sooner Roll Eyes
Terry ... and it's excellent UI programming to have the SAVE AS drop down on the same screen where you did the final touch up. Fred |
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2014, 02:37:30 PM » |
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Mack, So the "File" in the Editor is different than what "File" is in the Main window! That's the trick! It's no trick, just normal Windows, different window, different menu and if you'd read my first post properly, you'd have got there sooner Terry Geeze, no need for the condensation Terry for asking for an easier way! The way you wrote your first explanation questioned Why using P2F (Which is why I didn't think this was a good way to save to begin with!!!), then pulled in a lot of the 'candy' portions (text, RAW, etc.), then you put the last sentence in the same paragraph explaining how to do it as though it were tied to the former. That last sentence should have been in it's own paragraph to stand out without all the other Whys? and "If I did this or that" stuff, or ""convert" from the queue context menu" (Say huh?!?). All I wanted was an easier way to "Save an image" than the current way the program seemed to work. An easier way to explain it would have been: ____________________________ If you wish to save your edited work in QU, while you are in the "Edit" window where you've made your adjustments, go to File > Save as... (Upper left of that screen) and you can save to TIFF or JPG from there. No need to try that from the Main window as it doesn't work as easily from there. The "File" selection in the Editor's window has a different set of options than does the Main window in QU. <-- This is the key solution. Hope that helps! ____________________________ Note that nothing else like text, greeting cards, RAW, etc. was needed which convoluted the explanation. Fred got it in a way that sunk in, although somewhat patronizing too. Sheesh! Ask a question around here and one gets blasted.  Mack |
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