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« on: October 28, 2016, 08:41:10 PM »

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v2017.106   Oct 28, 2016

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v2017.106 includes improvements and fixes related to the new intelligent printer settings feature.

See the new intelligent printer settings in action: http://youtu.be/Qt8DCIgw7L0

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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2016, 09:53:04 AM »

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v2017.106 includes improvements and fixes related to the new intelligent printer settings feature.

First of all, thanks Mike for all the  hard work.

I love this new printer set up, but to call it intelligent, scares me.  Wink

I make my QU open with the Settings screen rather than a blank Live View. I personally like to see that I have my ducks in a row with regard to Printer and all the accoutrements.
(Wow, where the heck did I get that word from?)
Now I flip to my extra large view screen to work on my images

See screen snaps. These are fixed region screen snaps so the size is the same.

As much as I love the new screens, they were really designed to make the initial use by a new Qimager easier to see and set what needs to be set.
No more double profiling!!

OK Guys and gals, enjoy.

New folks, ask anything you need a boost on.
Old time users,  Tongue Roll Eyes Cheesy Smiley

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 04:56:47 PM »

Hello Mike,

We will get used to the changes I guess, it looks like an improvement on the GUI.

But my "Printer Setup Paper Size Sort" menu has been wiped from the features. I really like the paper sizes at name order.


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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 06:30:13 PM »

Hello Mike
Please bring back a way to make paper size sort, in my workflow is impossible to work without it
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 08:35:29 PM »

What I found was that most people asked to bring back the order as-listed in the driver because that's how all other applications work.  For simplicity and compatibility with other apps (and the driver), I removed the sort option.  I'm not able to alter the driver and from the user feedback I've gotten, it's best to keep them both consistent so that both QU and the driver have the same listing/order.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2016, 09:01:53 PM »

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I'll have to downgrade to 2017,104.
I use more than 50 paper sizes, if no order I lose too much time searching.
I hope you get a way to sorting by name, there I am in the old version.

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2016, 10:00:52 PM »

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I'll have to downgrade to 2017,104.
I use more than 50 paper sizes, if no order I lose too much time searching.
I hope you get a way to sorting by name, there I am in the old version.

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Is there no sense of order in the driver?  Which printer?  Hard to believe the driver would put them in "random" order.

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 11:01:49 PM »

Is not a random order, it follows the order of creation, after months is impossible to find the size, so does the Epson 4900 and the Z3200
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2016, 10:57:59 AM »

Is not a random order, it follows the order of creation, after months is impossible to find the size, so does the Epson 4900 and the Z3200
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Right, and in the Z3100/Z3200 driver (and probably way more wide formats) the custom made sizes come after the default sizes, A, B, 30x40 cm etc. So you first have to scroll down and then find the custom size you need at that moment. I guess users that have desktop printers using sheets are less inclined to create custom sizes and the OEM paper sizes list is also shorter for printers like that.

I have all my custom sizes starting with a 0" prefix so they end up at the top of all the sizes, if name sorting works. My custom sizes aim at the roll widths for economy so I have names like 0" 431xX, 0" 609xX, 0" 913xX, , 0" 1065xX, 0" 1117xX mm for respectively 17", 24", 36", 42", 44", roll widths, always 1mm less than the roll width to make sure the size falls within the size the printer measures when the roll is loaded. The paper sizes in the list group nicely to the roll widths. One wonders why HP and other roll printer manufacturers did not think about listing the custom sizes at the top and name sorted there.

A never used, 0" named, incredible big size gets at the top and prevented that Qimage was confronted with a too small default size after a size selection in driver.  Annoying when the images are already loaded and you get the adapt image size or print over multiple print pages menu. Used to be more an issue in the past. New size is delivered to Qimage in one step now. At the time more an HP driver issue I guess but the communication between QU and the driver has been improved one way or another.

Mike, I once asked for a feature to color the cutting marks and got it. The way it is implanted is too risky in my experience so I never use it. If you want to clean up the GUI you can drop that feature, if everybody agrees. I would use it if it was a preference permanent setting, the link to border color is too risky in my opinion.

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2016, 02:38:40 PM »

Mike,

Going back to version 102 for the moment, 106 has an issue. If I want to Edit Image a copy of the main Qimage Ultimate window is opened behind the one I started from and not an Edit Image window on top of the main window. Windows 7 OS. Seems to be no problem in Windows 10 according Bernard but he called me for some other flaws;
The Dutch language driver of the Canon Pro 4000 44" does not work at all, the English drivers of the Canon iPF8400/8300 work but paper size changes made in Settings are not working. He is not so happy with the blocking of the Live View window when the Settings window opens, no instant feedback of the print page that way. He went back to 102 too.

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2016, 03:33:24 PM »

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If I want to Edit Image a copy of the main Qimage Ultimate window is opened behind the one I started from and not an Edit Image window on top of the main window.

Ernst,
Can you give me the steps you take to cause this anomaly?
I have one machine with Windows 7
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2016, 04:26:47 PM »

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If I want to Edit Image a copy of the main Qimage Ultimate window is opened behind the one I started from and not an Edit Image window on top of the main window.

Ernst,
Can you give me the steps you take to cause this anomaly?
I have one machine with Windows 7
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Hello Fred,

Qimage 2017-106 installed on a Windows 7 system. Click twice on a thumbnail in an opened folder and what I described happens. The same with Ctrl F. The same when loaded on Live View. However to check it again I reinstalled QU 106 and now it works. Tried it with both 8 and 16 bit Tiff images, 8 bit JPEG, small and big. Kind of glitch in the install I guess. Will report if it comes back.


Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
July 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 04:30:44 PM »

I'll try on m y wife's W 7 32 bit machine. It has one install of 106
Thanks for the help

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2016, 08:40:50 AM »

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image 2017-106 installed on a Windows 7 system. Click twice on a thumbnail in an opened folder and what I described happens. The same with Ctrl Z. The same when loaded on Live View. However to check it again I reinstalled QU 106 and now it works. Tried it with both 8 and 16 bit Tiff images, 8 bit JPEG, small and big. Kind of glitch in the install I guess. Will report if it comes back.

Hello again Ernst,
After installing 106 on my wife's computer, I did get a mild anomaly issue with box overlapping. Nothing at all to do with the editor and thumbs. This was a size issue on a screen with a lower resolution setting and a smaller monitor. UI screen resolution set to 125%. I click on the PROPERTIES button and the two boxes open; the driver and the instructions.
There was overlap.
It wasn't windows 7 at fault, more the age of the monitor and the 1600 x 932 setting on a small screen, with 125% UI setting.
Mike has made the adjustment on that.

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2016, 10:34:28 AM »

Fred, thank you,

It has not appeared again after several times switching between 102 aand 106.

Something else, if I click in Settings the Driver Settings Properties the windows appear slowly, takes more time than the removed printer driver setting icon on top did. I have no need for the big black window with instructions on what has to be done etc in the driver. Can that be switched off? I doubt that will increase the speed but nevertheless.

A typical workflow on my Z3200: Roll paper loaded, a paper size selected that covers the width of that roll, a longer size than needed as I can not estimate precisely what print page length I need for several images on the print page. Optimal nesting chosen, images loaded. Then I go to Edit (print) Page select the bottom image and see what paper white can be removed and then check which paper size with the same roll width can be used and with too much waste I create an extra paper size for that roll width. Then I select Optimal Space nesting as I like the little wasted paper to be between the images too for easier cutting, a 2mm strip to cut off gives a better edge than 0.5 mm will.

I know the Remove White Space at bottom page feature but that one does not work for the Z3200 PCL3 driver. The workflow sketched requires a lot of clicking through menus and if there is not a suitable paper size I also have to wait for the Driver Settings Properties menu to create a custom paper size.

Fastest way to solve some window hopping is by adding more position info (bottom distance at least) on the bottom image in the live view window, similar info as given in the Edit Page menu. I wonder whether the Settings menu could get more interactive choices for the printer driver like creating custom paper sizes there too.

Another addition in the Settings window could be interactive printer resolution settings which would also be educational for the processing choices as in V2017.106 it could confuse a newby in thinking that the Processing interpolation choices are setting the driver resolution.

If this is too much asked for then please bring back the printer driver icon on top as an extra entrance to the printer driver. There is space there and it is a faster way to more driver settings like; Gloss Enhancer choices, HP print preview on or off, etc. Or just for the time being till the settings window is interactive on 90% of the driver settings.

Met vriendelijke groet, Ernst

http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm
July 2016 update, 700+ inkjet media white spectral plots
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