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Author Topic: Evaluating Qimage.  (Read 12452 times)
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« on: September 03, 2009, 07:51:04 PM »

Hello!
I'm evaluating Qimage.
I think that it's a very good software.
Now my consideration.
I'm trying to print a photo on A3+ on my HP B9180.
Very normal task, you will think.
Probably, but with some difference in my case.
I start from a file acquired with my Howtek 7500 from a positive 4x5" at 5.000 dpi (or ppi if you prefer).
I've pixel to print an image at 300dpi as wide as 80 inch.
I want to print at 1200 dpi on A3+.
On the widest dimension I need 22.820 pixel and I resize down (a little) my image.
The file in jpeg compressed is about 130Mb.
Once opened it's about 1Gb.
This dimension shouldn't be exaggerate for Qimage because it simulate (using interpolation) the presence of file like these.
The only issue is that the software don't work with such big files.
I've two different results.
If the file is big too much (I suppose over 500Mb) it display "Image read error" in thumb (obviously no error in file itself).
With good compression the file (jpeg) goes down to 130Mb.
So Qimage display well in thumb and try to print.
After print command, appear a message "Qimage could not load the file : xxxxxxxx Current session aborted" .
So, that's all.
If I want to print a file from my EOS 5D and Qimage has to "create" pixels using interpolation there isn't problem, the software works good.
If I've all pixel acquired of "real information" I can't print with this "Professional" software.
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(sorry for my english ... )
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 08:02:20 PM »

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If the file is big too much (I suppose over 500Mb) it display "Image read error" in thumb

The first thing we need to do is get rid of the Image Read Error.
You didn't mention what type of file you created that displays Image Read Error.
If it is a PSD file from Photo Shop, you must check MAX Compatibility upon saving, and also no alpha channels.

If you saved a TIFF, make sure you are saving  as per the screen snap attached.
500 MB is not to large for Qimage.

Fred
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 08:10:53 PM »

With good compression the file (jpeg) goes down to 130Mb.

Many thanks for reply Fred, it's a jpeg with sRGB as embedded color profile.
I've noted that with psd there is some problem and I've saved in jpeg.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2009, 08:21:35 PM »

So you are saying that you get an Image Read Error on a JPG  ?
That has to be some weird JPG save or a corruption.
What application created the save?
I gather you scanned the image, and then have to save it from the acquired scan.

Once we get the image error cleared, there are a few ways to print what you want.
If you want to print at 1200 ppi, you would go to Custom, Original size, put a check in override, and type in 1200 into the PPI box.
As an alternative, decide what size print you want to make on the A3+ paper, and if that size is non standard, then again Custom, Enter Print size, and Qimage will make the size you want. Usually, crop scissors on which gives Qimage permission to fill your request and to crop a little if need be.

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2009, 08:31:47 PM »

Just an aside, Fred, I had the same error yesterday.  Really wierd.  I scanned some old photos for restoration using Vuescan.  I used the option to save TIFs and save RAW (which Hamrick saves as TIFs).  QI will not see them.  Breezebrowser and PS do--both the regular and the RAW TIFs.  300MB files

QI does fine after PS saves.

So, we might need to know what software he is using on the scanner.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 08:34:40 PM »

The image, acquired as tiff uncompressed (1,3Gb), has been opened with Photshop CS4.
Then post-produced and saved in psd format.
Then opened to test this software, resized and saved in jpeg.
Sorry but there are not errors in file itself.
Setting in Qimage are almost simple.
I've printed other images in A3+ and works perfectly.
The compressed jpeg to 130Mb is reading well in thumbnail.
When I set the resolution in printer driver to Maximum, Qimage indicates in resolution 1200 dpi, without force settings.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 08:43:27 PM »

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When I set the resolution in printer driver to Maximum, Qimage indicates in resolution 1200 dpi, without force settings.
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I believe you are looking above the upper right preview panel which is telling you the driver settings for input ppi.
All that means is that Qimage will interpolate your image to 1200 ppi and send to the printer.

A 1.3 gig file is likely too large for Qimage and your available resources. To check this, Hold the shift key while Qimage is open, and click HELP and Analyze current settings.
You will get an approximation of the amount of resource you have and what size file can be processed by Qimage.
I also believe that you are saying that the 130MB JPG is not reading nor printing. How was that JPG created?

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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 08:58:12 PM »

I've done the check.
Appear a little window that says :

Information
Start: 798 MB
Addl: 335 MB
Now: 798 MB
OK

My Windows XP system information tell me that I've a total of 3.4 Gb  of physical memory installed (really 4Gb but XP 32 bit can't use all).
I read also that I've 2.36Gb of memory free for applications (with Qimage loaded in memory).
So I suppose that it's not a problem of free memory in my PC.
About jpeg, as I wrote in previous post, was created with Photoshop CS4.

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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 09:11:33 PM »

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So I suppose that it's not a problem of free memory in my PC.
But I'm afraid it is a problem. Windows memory management is not very clever (I think Vista is better than XP) and Qimage is telling you what it sees as available. There may be programs or services running in the background that hog the resource or Windows has not freed up the memory - I think that is correct from memory of Qimage's author's (Mike) explanation in the past.
Thus your file needs to be below 798MB.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 09:18:13 PM »

For what I know, Windows programs have not problems with memory.
If a software need memory ask Windows to allocate the requested amount.
Window permit application to use physical memory or, if the amount is excessive, it swaps memory to .... swap file on disk.
With the same amount of memory I open a bigger file on Photoshop without problems.
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 09:30:49 PM »

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For what I know, Windows programs have not problems with memory.
Hopefully Mike can give a better answer than me, but the Windows XP Operating system does have limitations.

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With the same amount of memory I open a bigger file on Photoshop without problems
I believe PS does it's own memory management to overcome Windows problems.

If you want to use the best printing program available, and one that can PRINT larger files than PS can, then you need to manage your file sizes. Top Pro's across the World use Qimage quite satisfactorily to make quality prints Metres long so there's not much wrong with Qimage.
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« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2009, 09:34:25 PM »

I'm sure that Qimage is a very well done software.
I try only to know what is wrong in my pc/Windows/etc. in order to do prints I want.
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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2009, 10:10:55 PM »

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4x5" at 5.000 dpi

Unless my arithmetic is faulty, and that can easily be so, you are scanning at an unusually high resolution.

4 x 5 at 5000 dpi (25000 x 20000, times 3)   1.5 gigabytes
Try dropping the scan resolution to 600 DPI.

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