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Mike's Software => Qimage => Topic started by: kieranmullen on September 17, 2009, 08:20:44 AM



Title: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: kieranmullen on September 17, 2009, 08:20:44 AM
Is there a mode that will make the raw and its jpg for the same filename/shot show as 1 icon/image? There is such a mode in Nikon View NX It looks much cleaner.  It makes a difference when you are going through 2000 images (Love my 32gb compact flash card) otherwise it would seem like 4000 images with raw and jpg. Rather than hiding one extension or the other.   Raw files with a jpg have an additional icon so you know there is a jpg for it as well.

Thanks


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Terry-M on September 17, 2009, 08:37:35 AM
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Is there a mode that will make the raw and its jpg for the same filename/shot show as 1 icon/image?
If the raw & jpeg's are in the same folder, you can sort the view by file type so all the jpeg's are together. You can then scroll the thumbnails and look at the jpeg's only.
Alternatively, place the jpeg's in a separate folder. Mike's new FlashPipe program would allow you to do this when you down-loaded the CF card.
Terry.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: kieranmullen on September 17, 2009, 08:42:05 AM
Thanks. However I had mentioned that someone might reply with a response like yours. You can view one extension or the other I know.. but it would be nice to display all, combine similar, and differentiate images that have both a jpg and a raw or images that just have a raw or a jpg... I can take a screenshot if no one but me uses the free Nikon View NX software.

Thanks

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Is there a mode that will make the raw and its jpg for the same filename/shot show as 1 icon/image?
If the raw & jpeg's are in the same folder, you can sort the view by file type so all the jpeg's are together. You can then scroll the thumbnails and look at the jpeg's only.
Alternatively, place the jpeg's in a separate folder. Mike's new FlashPipe program would allow you to do this when you down-loaded the CF card.
Terry.



Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Terry-M on September 17, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
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I can take a screenshot if no one but me uses the free Nikon View NX software
By all means, do that.
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but it would be nice to display all, combine similar, and differentiate images that have both a jpg and a raw or images that just have a raw or a jpg...
It would help to explain why it would be "nice"; is it really "useful"?
Do you know that Qimage has a Comparator function?
Terry.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Seth on September 17, 2009, 05:36:50 PM
Thanks. However I had mentioned that someone might reply with a response like yours. You can view one extension or the other I know.. but it would be nice to display all, combine similar, and differentiate images that have both a jpg and a raw or images that just have a raw or a jpg... I can take a screenshot if no one but me uses the free Nikon View NX software.

Other software allows that also.  One in particular gives the option to view only the jpegs but have whatever action you do to one apply to both.  It can be turned on or off.  BUT, be careful.  Too many options can be a disaster if you have a bad day and don't check your settings..... :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: BrianPrice on September 18, 2009, 07:43:11 AM

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Alternatively, place the jpeg's in a separate folder. Mike's new FlashPipe program would allow you to do this when you down-loaded the CF card.
Terry.


Terry


How do you do this with Flashpipe?

Brian


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Terry-M on September 18, 2009, 07:47:19 AM
Brian,
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How do you do this with Flashpipe?
Give me a  little time, I need to take a few shots raw+jpeg to demonstrate and show a screen shot. I normally take raw only.
Terry.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Terry-M on September 18, 2009, 09:36:42 AM
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I need to take a few shots raw+jpeg to demonstrate and show a screen shot.
OK, I'm ready.
There are various ways this can be done. I've assumed 1 folder that I called "RAW plus JPEG" with 2 separate sub folders, one for raw and one for jpegs.

SETUP:
First I created the folder "RAW plus JPEG" using Explorer.
FP Settings are shown in attachment below. Those not shown were off.
I created Output lines as shown in attachments below; the "To Folder" path is to "RAW plus JPEG" and I typed in each of the sub folders for FP to create: "09-09-18 RAW only" and "09-09-18 JPEG only"
OPERATION
1. Copy raw images, see attachment "FP jpeg-raw 1" below
2. Copy jpeg's, see attachment "FP jpeg-raw 2" below.
Note the square brackets around the EXCLUDED source files, just click on the number to do that.
Note also the "Off" control on the output lines.

Remember too that you can many lines for each situation, just turn off the ones not needed at a particular time

There are other ways to do this. I'm sure Fred will make a suggestion, he seems to have got this well under control.
One thing that would make this easier I think, would be to have the ability to control the "Photos" type in the Output, i.e separate "Photos"  into "raw", "jpeg's" and "all photos".
Maybe Mike will pick this up as a suggestion, unless there's another way.

Terry.




Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Terry-M on September 18, 2009, 10:16:51 AM
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There are other ways to do this
Here is another that requires just a 1-step operation after set-up
See attachments below.
No creation of folder in Explorer required.
See Settings with a separate raw folder activated.
Output set to path: C:\~\My Documents\My Pictures
Output Subfolder column has "RAW + JPEG" typed in; FP will create this.
The result is a new folder "RAW + JPEG" that contains the jpeg's and within it a sub-folder "09-09-18 RawOnly" that contains the raw images.
Terry.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Fred A on September 18, 2009, 02:42:08 PM
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The result is a new folder
With Terry's permission, I would like to add my easy way to do this.
This is an undocumented feature of Flash pipe.
By placing (just click it) parentheses around a number of photos prevents it from being copied.
So if you look at my first screen snap, snap 19, you see I have parentheses around the number of RAW preventing them from moving and allowing only the JPGS to go into the sub folder TEST1.
Next, simply click on the parentheses and they disappear, and click on the Photos section and you see there were 5 of those also, and apply the parentheses.
I changed the output folder name to TEST2, click GO and the Raw images only go into that folder.

That is so simple. No messing with Explorer, or using 2 or three programs.

Fred


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: BrianPrice on September 18, 2009, 03:05:23 PM
Hi

Thank you for the info. Fred's system works well, but I like Terry's idea of having 'All Photos', 'Raw', and 'Jpg' in the File Type drop-down menu. It means you could download both in one go, and you wouldn't have to do any extra clicking (except Go) if the pics were on more than one card.


Brian


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Fred A on September 18, 2009, 04:55:47 PM
That's the point. Like any good software, there are usually many ways to accomplish the task.
You choose whatever is most comfortable for you.
I just thought it would be nice to let every one know about the parentheses method of selection from a card, as well as selercying from a folder on the hard drive and selectively copying what you want to copy.

Thanks,
Fred


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: kieranmullen on September 29, 2009, 05:48:29 AM
Here ya go

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Thanks. However I had mentioned that someone might reply with a response like yours. You can view one extension or the other I know.. but it would be nice to display all, combine similar, and differentiate images that have both a jpg and a raw or images that just have a raw or a jpg... I can take a screenshot if no one but me uses the free Nikon View NX software.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Seth on September 29, 2009, 04:15:32 PM
Is there a mode that will make the raw and its jpg for the same filename/shot show as 1 icon/image? There is such a mode in Nikon View NX It looks much cleaner.  It makes a difference when you are going through 2000 images (Love my 32gb compact flash card) otherwise it would seem like 4000 images with raw and jpg. Rather than hiding one extension or the other. 

This really was not a Flashpipe question; rather a QI question.  I know what you are asking because although I gave up the NX a while back, I have used Breezebrowser for years.  There is an option to 'View only JPG when RAW and JPG exist,' or words to that effect.  It also has the option (check box) to apply all actions on one to the other also.

Isn't that what you are asking about or asking for?  An ON/OFF switch in QI?


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: kieranmullen on September 29, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
Hi Where is this option?   This IS posted in the Qimage forum?   ???


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Seth on September 29, 2009, 04:45:48 PM
Hi Where is this option?   This IS posted in the Qimage forum?   ???

I do not know if the option is in QI.  It just seemed you were asking about it and most of the responses were telling you to sort them with FP or separate them manually.

I was just trying to get it back on line as a QI option.


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Fred A on September 29, 2009, 04:58:32 PM
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Hi Where is this option?
Click VIEW and then Thumbnail File Browser, Include File Types, and Uncheck the ones you don't want to view.
Is that what you wanted?
Seth is psychic!   8)

See screen snap
Fred


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Seth on September 29, 2009, 08:33:59 PM
Seth is psychic! 

Are you sure?  Did you misspell psychotic?  ;D ;D ;)


Title: Re: Jpg & Raw Viewing
Post by: Fred A on September 29, 2009, 08:44:34 PM
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Are you sure?  Did you misspell psycho

Not at all. I used psychic to describe a sort of 'medium' ability to see through the mist.
If you prefer, we can use Medium. Digital medium could be a hard drive, or inkjet print paper, or a JPG?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

keep smiling.
Fred